Antoine Rousseau wrote: > Such tools are included in ExtendedViewToolkit: > http://extendedview.mur.at/index.html > <http://extendedview.mur.at/index.html> > Look at e.g.: ev-pro/ev_pro_22-help.pd thanks a bunch ! will do ! yeah, ExtendedViewToolkit ! how could i forget about that ! that's a goldmine ! best oliver