[PD] initbang in vanilla (was Re: how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?)

Christof Ressi christof.ressi at gmx.at
Thu Oct 19 18:02:32 CEST 2017

I'm not sure if there's much to "steal" in the case of [initbang] (I don't like the word BTW. in the open source world you shouldn't have to "steal" things). 
but I'm wondering: how can one reimplement [initbang] and publish it under a different, more permissive license? basically it's just an API call and a version check... there's not much to do differently. shall [initbang] therefore always be GPL?

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2017 um 17:23 Uhr
> Von: "IOhannes m zmölnig" <zmoelnig at iem.at>
> An: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] initbang in vanilla (was Re: how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?)
> On 10/19/2017 03:20 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Well, I guess this is now turning into a request to bring such
> > functionalities to vanilla. My point being that it'd be of vital importance
> > if we want Pd Vanilla to have any real functionality of providing ways to
> > program powerful external abstractions.
> yawn.
> sorry, but you are 10 years late. we've had this discussion. multiple
> times. the conclusion was that Pd now provides the infrastucture to
> implement [initbang] as an external.
> personally, i think this is good enough, and most likely all we will
> ever get.
> i'm pretty tired of issues being re-raised over more than a decade.
> (it obviously show that there is interest in the problem. but we now do
> have a solution and your point currently is mainly that you don't like
> the particula implementation of it)
> > 
> > If not, since I do not want dependancies to other external libraries, the
> > only way would be to "steal" it for my library, huh? What are the ethics on
> > that?
> (you probably deserve eternal damnation for such a thing.)
> most likely you will discover another issue that has been neatly solved
> in iemguts in a week or two. and steal that.
> and then you discover that iemguts hsa other nifty things.
> and just steal all of them, until you have stolen it all. just for the
> sake of "not having a dependency".
> apart from that, iemguts is licensed under the GPL-2+.
> everybody is free to use it under this license (but note, that e.g. ELSE
> is currently not compatible with GPL)
> gfmadsr
> IOhannes
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