[PD] initbang in vanilla (was Re: how to destroy/delete an object with dynamic patching?)

IOhannes m zmölnig zmoelnig at iem.at
Sat Oct 21 09:08:40 CEST 2017

On 10/20/2017 10:19 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> Though I mostly agree with you, I disagree with the notion that raising
> the same thing several times is necessarily a bad thing. I'm living in
> a country where the people directly vote about some decisions. We would
> live in medieval times still - so to speak - if we hadn't voted about
> the same thing many times. 10 years later, the (Pd-) world might have
> changed a bit and suddenly implementing [initbang] in Pd-vanilla is
> considered nice and pretty.. How can you know?

no sorry, that's not how it works.

while i totally agree on the general terms, this doesn't apply to the
current issue.

the initbang discussion has *started* >10 years ago (for what it is
worth: this is when I first implemented it).
since then the issue was raised again and again.
1.5 years ago (see the post from miller that alex linked to) a decision
was made, which was greeted with an "EVERYONE WINS" by the community
(and i don't remember anybody objecting).

so what has changed in the last 20 months?

of course, we are living in a free world and you are free to raise your
concerns about any decision, even it has reached consensus a minute ago.
and if others don't want to get through all this again and again, they
free to blacklist your address.
though this is probably counterproductive on the long run.


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