[PD] suggestion: $0 in messages

João Pais jmmmpais at gmail.com
Mon Apr 2 11:26:21 CEST 2018


> > I just can't see how there could be any problem, or, in other words, I
> > can't see how $0 becoming "0" in messages is a desired feature or if
> anyone
> > could rely on this behaviour.
>
> "0" certainly isn't a good behaviour.
>

What would be the good behaviour, in this case?


>
> >
> > But, if there's any concern or resistance to this, no problem, my
> > alternative would be to create an external that would do that. but then
> I'd
> > like to know here first where should I aim my efforts, if to a Pull
> Request
> > to Vanilla or to an external design.
> >
>
> like mostly, i'm opposing.
> this has been discussed about 15 years ago, and my arguments still stand
> (mainly: consistency with dollar-parsing throughout Pd)
>

Yes, but there is no consistency either now. So the question would be: is
the current inconsistency a productive one (do people benefit from having a
0 there), or would people benefit more from having an inconsistency that
provides them with a new useful feature?

For me, I can't count how many times I had to add a [$0], or a pack or some
extra workaround before a message so that I could send messages to my
variables (I hardly use variables without a $0).

Joao
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