[PD] Fw: Re: Escaping/not resolving dollar argts in msgs/objects?

[Christof Ressi]

sorry, I think I misread your question. for what you want Jack's solution is right. mine is for dynamically creating patch *files*.

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 um 14:09 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>
> An: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzent at gmail.com>
> Cc: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> Betreff: Re: [PD] Escaping/not resolving dollar argts in msgs/objects?
>
> > [obj 20 20 array define $$1-snd0]
> 
> this only works as long as you don't save and reopen the patch, where "$$1" will become "$\$1" (which is resolved to "$\\$1" instead of "\\$1").
> 
> this should do the trick: [0( --> [makefilename $%d] --> [;pd-mysubpatch obj 0 0 array define $1-snd0(
> 
> one case where this is necessary is when you dynamically create pd patch files which take creation arguments or need $0-symbols.
> 
> Christof
> 
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Mai 2018 um 13:52 Uhr
> > Von: "Roman Haefeli" <reduzent at gmail.com>
> > An: pd-list at lists.iem.at
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Escaping/not resolving dollar argts in msgs/objects?
> >
> > On Tue, 2018-05-15 at 04:15 -0700, Derek Kwan wrote:
> > > Hello list,
> > > 
> > > Perhaps a bit of a long shot and pretty much the exact opposite of
> > > the $0
> > > in messages conversations as of late: Is there a way to NOT resolve
> > > dollar arguments in messages and/or objects?
> > 
> > I think you cannot dynamically disable the resolution of dollar
> > symbols.
> > 
> > > Example case: Lately for a project I've wanted to create vast swaths
> > > of
> > > [array define]s and I've done so with dynamic patching. Since I want
> > > their bound symbols to be something like "$0-snd0", "$0-snd1"
> > > $0"-snd2"... "$0-snd50", I DON'T want dollar arguments (particularly
> > > the
> > > $0) to resolve to anything
> > 
> > Do I understand correctly that you want to be able to create those
> > objects containing literal '$0'?
> > 
> > You can "trick" Pd into creating a symbol that itself has a dollar
> > variable:
> > 
> > [0 (
> > |
> > [obj 20 20 array define $$1-snd0]
> > |
> > [s canvas]
> > 
> > > . Similarly, I store filepath + array symbol
> > > pairs in texts to do a big load at the beginning and for right now
> > > and
> > > can always add the $0-bit via passing that symbol through a
> > > [makefilename], but I'm wondering if I can pass $0s unresolved into a
> > > text without having to manually type it in via the popup window.
> > 
> > You could use the same trick.
> > 
> > > Of course I can always edit the patch in emacs/vim and do a
> > > search/replace, but I'm looking for an in-Pd solutions... Also for
> > > the
> > > array business I suppose I could do that via [clone], but that
> > > situation
> > > doesn't seem ideal either...
> > 
> > I was just wondering why I haven't ever experienced the same need for
> > literal dollar symbols in my patching career and realized that I never
> > save dynamically created stuff. I rather let the dynamic stuff be
> > created each time I load the patch. This way all dollar variables
> > resolve to the currently correct value and I never bothered to use
> > literal dollar signs in dynamic patching. Maybe I'm not fully
> > understanding your case, but I can't see how having dynamically
> > generated '$0' is useful in any way. Either you create all dynamic
> > stuff from scratch, then you can as well use the value of $0 or you're
> > saving stuff for later, but why do you need $0 then? Don't you rather
> > want something fixed/controllable, that evaluates to the same value on
> > each run?
> > 
> > Roman
> > 
> > 
> > 
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