[PD] PD as VST plugin, legal side (was Purr-Data Google Summer of Code opportunity)

[Chuckk Hubbard]

Hi again,
I've been experimenting a bit and another question came to me, if anyone
knows the legal details:
Considering that vstplugin~ is not a program, but a library, and Pd itself,
according to Wikipedia, is not a program, but a programming language, won't
Big BrotherST have the right to start threatening me if I put out a PD
patch using this library to load VST 2.4 plugins? I do not have a VST
developer's license.
OR, considering that I won't distribute the library itself, only a program
that links to it (and which will not itself be able to distinguish which
version of the VST standard is being used) will they only have the right to
kiss my grits?

Genuinely concerned here. Thanks!
Chuckk

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 8:57 PM Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at> wrote:

> > good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.
>
> Search deken for vstplugin~ or checkout https://git.iem.at/pd/vstplugin
>
> It's a vst host for pd and supercollider. The alpha release is vst2 only
> but a new (stable) release with vst3 support will be out in a couple of
> days.
>
> Christof
>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. März 2019 um 18:21 Uhr
> > Von: "Chuckk Hubbard" <badmuthahubbard at gmail.com>
> > An: "Pure Data List" <pd-list at iem.at>
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Purr-Data Google Summer of Code
> opportunity
> >
> > Re: GSoC for Purr Data, I just want to say
> > 1. That's great news! Congratulations!
> > 2. I saw the list, and while I'm sure some internal improvements would be
> > good, for me, plugin integration would make a huge difference.
> > VST has unfortunately been completely removed from Csound in response to
> > Steinberg's aggressive approach, old CPS seems not to work anymore, and
> > yes, PD's plugin possibilities are unstable. There are Distrho PF and
> > iPlug2 and Faust, but none of these allow hosting, only being hosted.
> Other
> > than that, to write software that hosts as well as plugs VST, it's Juce
> or
> > Steinberg's SDK.
> > A few years ago, it seemed like this functionality was cropping up
> > everywhere. Today it has disappeared. I for one would be thrilled to see
> > this happen.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 9:10 PM Ivica Bukvic <ico at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings fellow Pd enthusiasts,
> > >
> > > As some of you may be already aware, ast year the Purr-Data (a.k.a.
> > > Pd-L2Ork v2) was adapted to support native 64-bit operations. We are
> > > pleased to report that Purr-Data was once again selected this year as
> one
> > > of the GSoC projects. This means more opportunities to engage and help
> > > further the platform. Ideas for this year are plentiful, ranging from
> core
> > > infrastructure (C) development to patching and front-end development,
> > > including porting Pd-L2Ork's K12 learning module that has seen its
> > > utilization in dozens of Maker camps over the past 7 years.
> > >
> > > If interested, please contact Jonathan and/or me to explore potential
> > > projects and to discuss the next steps in the application process.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Ico
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> > > Director, Creativity + Innovation
> > > Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
> > >
> > > Virginia Tech
> > > Creative Technologies in Music
> > > School of Performing Arts – 0141
> > > Blacksburg, VA 24061
> > > (540) 231-6139
> > > ico at vt.edu
> > >
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> > > ico.bukvic.net
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