[PD] [PD-announce] 0.50-0 released

[Jack]

Hi IOhannes,

Le 20/08/2019 à 15:24, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
> On 8/20/19 3:11 PM, Jack wrote:
>> Hi Miller,
>>
>> The shortcut (CTRL+K) still doesn't work to "Disconnect Selection" (in
>> the menu Edit).
>> Maybe I missed something ?
>>
>> - Selecting 2 connected [t b] => "Disconnect Selection" doesn't work
>> - Selecting the thread of 2 connected [t b] => "Disconnect Selection"
>> doesn't work
> 
> 
> this never worked (that is: 0.50 has the same behaviour as 0.49, so
> there is no regression)
> 
> Currently the <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>+<kbd>k</kbd> shortcut should disconnect
> all connections of a single selected object. This it does.

OK, i got it !

> 
> Selecting a single patchcord and disconnecting the two objects can be
> simply done with the <kbd>Del</kbd> key.

Sure.

> But there is probably little harm done, if <kbd>Ctrl</kbd>+<kbd>k</kbd>
> would *also* handle this case.

Yes.

> 
> Selecting two connected objects is a bit more tricky: what would you
> expect the shortcut to do?
> 
> something as simple as `[t f] -> [t f]` is *probably* easy: remove
> connection between the two objects. (so you get `[t f]   [t f]`)

Yes, it is what I expected.

> But what if you have:
> `[f]->[t f]->[t f]->[print]` and you select the two `[t f]` objects.
> The current behaviour (when only a single object is selected), would
> suggest to remove any connection going in/out of the selection (rather
> than inside the selection), so you end up with:
> `[f]  [t f]->[t f]  [print]`
> other people might expect `[f]->[t f]  [t f]->[print]`

and you can also expect :
`[f]  [t f]  [t f] [print]`

> 
> and what if you have a loop?
> ~~~
> +>[t f]-+
> |       |
> +-[t f]<+
> ~~~

But yes, these cases are good examples to prove that the usage is not
easy to handle.

> 
> 
> so the current behaviour is intentional.
> unless/until you can come up with a convincingly consistent behaviour,
> that is easy to remember :-)

Maybe, by using 2 shortcuts :
CTRL+K : Connect two objects
CTRL+SHIFT+K : Disconnect object
++

Jack


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