[PD] font issues - once again ...

oliver oliver at klingt.org
Sat Sep 7 21:56:42 CEST 2019


hi !

i am aware, that font (compatibility) issues have been discussed here 
quite often, but i'd like to open it once again ...

recently when i tried to check a couple of my abstractions for 
cross-platform compatibility, i discovered a huge difference in size 
when the default font (DejaVu Sans Mono) was used on either windows/osx 
and linux.

But "DejaVu Sans Mono" on Linux (Ubuntu 19.04) has a much larger spacing 
than on both other platroms, making text designs in PD patches 
incredibly difficult to be cross-platform. i'm not talking "not 100% 
precise", it's way more than that, as you can see on the screenhot i 
made with the attached patch on 3 different systems. only on linux the 
text is way too long for the background canvas and becomes invisible 
(because it's white ...)

(or see the screenshots here:)
https://wolke.klingt.org/index.php/s/sAJg9z4VqRaeB9G

Some questions:

1.) Do other Linux users have the same font experience, or is my distro 
messed up ?
2.) I installed 3 fairly recent PD versions on each system (0.50 in 
win/osx, 0.49 on ubuntu via apt-get). why do they all use different TK 
versions ?
3.) why is the windows default font-weight bold ? it looks ... well ... 
fuzzy to me ... (though it's no big deal as i can change it in the 
preferences - but what's the design decision here ?)
4.) why "times" ? ;-)


(i won't even bring up the subject that the three standard PD fonts 
(DejaVu Sans Mono, Helvetica, Times) all look quite different on either 
platform, but since the spacing is more or less correct - safe for 
"times" which i never use - i don't really mind.)


thanks for help or clarifications

best

oliver




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#N canvas 808 334 625 456 10;
#X obj 60 45 cnv 15 500 30 empty empty this is a moderately long white text on blue background
30 15 0 14 -4160 -262144 0;
#X obj 60 116 cnv 15 500 30 empty empty this is a moderately long white text on blue background
30 15 1 14 -4160 -262144 0;
#X obj 60 186 cnv 15 500 30 empty empty this is a moderately long white text on blue background
30 15 2 14 -4160 -262144 0;
#X text 68 299 OSX (10.13.6):;
#X text 68 315 Tk 8.5.19 Detected font: DejaVu Sans Mono Using font:
DejaVu Sans Mono normal, f 42;
#X text 64 89 Helvetica 14;
#X text 66 159 Times 14;
#X text 65 22 DejaVu Sans Mono 14;
#X text 68 257 Tk 8.6.8 Detected font: DejaVu Sans Mono Using font:
DejaVu Sans Mono bold, f 41;
#X text 68 358 LINUX (UBUNTU 19.04):;
#X text 68 242 WINDOWS (7/64):;
#X text 68 374 Tk 8.6.9 Detected font: DejaVu Sans Mono Using font:
DejaVu Sans Mono normal, f 42;
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