[PD] font in 0.50

[rolfm at dds.nl]

@christof
i'm using i386.

this is console output:

pdfontloader loaded DejaVuSansMono.ttf
pdfontloader loaded DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf
'pd-gui' connecting to 'pd' on localhost 5401 ...
------------------ done with main ----------------------
Tk 8.5.19
Detected font: DejaVu Sans Mono
Using font: DejaVu Sans Mono bold

rolf

Christof Ressi schreef op 08-09-2019 11:31:
> I've noticed you didn't reply to Lucas' mail:
> https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2019-08/125829.html
> 
> what font is Pd using? are you using 64-bit Pd? if yes, can you try
> 32-bit and compare?
> 
> Christof
> 
>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 08. September 2019 um 11:16 Uhr
>> Von: rolfm at dds.nl
>> An: "Pd list" <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>> Betreff: Re: [PD] font in 0.50
>> 
>> hi,
>> 
>> i'm really strugling with this change in size from 0.49.
>> it feels like a disaster, until now i did not find something like a
>> (partial) solution.
>> 
>> i hope some people on the list can point me to something workable.
>> (besides staying with 0.49).
>> 
>> 
>> first a few things which could possibly help me:
>> 
>> is it possible to let Pd ignore the font-size saved in the patch and 
>> use
>> another given value?
>> 
>> is it possible to change the standard distance between object boxes 
>> used
>> while autopatching?
>> 
>> is it possible to enlarge the area for the cursor to detect an outlet?
>> 
>> 
>> then the obstacles:
>> 
>> when, in Windows 10, i scale the system overall from the recommended
>> 125% to 175% i'm still forced to sit close to my 15" screen to be able
>> to read my existing patches.
>> 
>> (while i need to find flexible comfortable ways to work with the
>> computer in relation to RSI phenomena).
>> 
>> the pd-windows are enlarged, but the content of the GOP's and the
>> underlying patches stay in font-size 10.
>> 
>> the same goes for Pd itself.
>> the font for the console (font-size 12) can be changed but the change 
>> is
>> not saved.
>> the menu's stay anyhow in font-size 10.
>> 
>> lots of help-patches are also in 10.
>> watching the help-patch with the zoom could help, but is a hassle
>> because one has to move the focus/cursor to the help-window, do Ctrl + 
>> ,
>> and maximize the window.
>> 
>> the font-size variable in the command line only works on new patches, 
>> as
>> does the zoom preference.
>> 
>> 
>> what to do?
>> there's the terrible option to change all my existing
>> patches/abstractions to a larger font, what would also mean to
>> reorganize the layout.
>> 
>> of course i'm dreaming of a scalable overall zoom, even a few distinct
>> levels would do. (which would also benefit the exchange of patches 
>> with
>> other people).
>> but...
>> 
>> rolf
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Miller Puckette schreef op 25-08-2019 18:15:
>> > Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same,
>> > but
>> > 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy.  (And let me know if you're seeing
>> > something
>> > different :)
>> >
>> > M
>> >
>> > On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
>> >> Hi Rolf -
>> >>
>> >> I compared 0.49 and 0.50.  It looks to me like the 64 bit version of
>> >> 0.49 and
>> >> 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the
>> >> 32-bit
>> >> version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently
>> >> because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything).  The i386 version of 0.49
>> >> shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various
>> >> other
>> >> problems.
>> >>
>> >> From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to
>> >> get
>> >> boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch
>> >> bigger is to use "zoom".  Unfortunately, patches don't remember their
>> >> zoom state (I now think that they probably should).
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >> Miller
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm at dds.nl wrote:
>> >> > hi
>> >> >
>> >> > i'm on Windows 10.
>> >> > font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then
>> >> > in 0.49.
>> >> >
>> >> > how come?
>> >> > and how to change without the command line?
>> >> >
>> >> > rolf
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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