[PD] Raspberry Pi: Loading Samples RAM problem

Antoine Rousseau antoine at metalu.net
Fri Nov 1 19:07:52 CET 2019


OK.. So I look forward to seeing it!


Le ven. 1 nov. 2019 à 17:45, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at> a
écrit :

> the threaded soundfiler implementation is cool, but it could be greatly
> simplified with the worker thread API.
>
> also, there wouldn't be a need to have a dedicated thread for each object
> (which doesn't scale very well), and message passing would be done with a
> lock-free command FIFO (no mutex locking!)
>
> Christof
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 01. November 2019 um 17:30 Uhr
> *Von:* "Antoine Rousseau" <antoine at metalu.net>
> *An:* "Christof Ressi" <christof.ressi at gmx.at>, Pd-List <
> pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> *Betreff:* Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi: Loading Samples RAM problem
> There's already a WIP about a threaded soundfiler:
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/655
>
> with a complement, dispensing to rebuild the whole DSP tree after loading
> a soundfile:
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/667
>
> The latter has some impact on CPU load: it significantly lightens normal
> [tabread]/[tabwrite] usage (no more need to reacquire the array each time),
> but adds a bit of load for setting it to another table. It also adds a bit
> of load for DSP-table objects at each DPS-block beginning (to check the
> table pointer is still valid). I had started to gprof the change, but I
> didn't go through with it...
>
> Antoine Rousseau
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> Le ven. 1 nov. 2019 à 14:31, Christof Ressi <christof.ressi at gmx.at> a
> écrit :
>
>> another trick is to use [readsf~] in an upsampled subpatch.
>>
>> BTW, I have ideas for adding a worker thread to Pd (similar to
>> Supercollider), which would help solving a lot of Pd's realtime-safety
>> issues. I want to do that in the next couple of weeks when I have more time.
>>
>> Chrisotf
>>
>> > Gesendet: Freitag, 01. November 2019 um 14:21 Uhr
>> > Von: "oliver" <oliver at klingt.org>
>> > An: Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
>> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi: Loading Samples RAM problem
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > try to use "soundfiler" to read only chunks of your files. so it's
>> > actually more a "harddisk"-streaming method.
>> >
>> > have some example patches here:
>> >
>> > mind, that this will be obviously limited by the read-speed of your
>> SD-card.
>> >
>> >
>> > best
>> >
>> > oliver
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jakob Laue wrote:
>> > > Dear list,
>> > > i have a little problem with my raspberry pi..
>> > > I have built an eight-track sample player patch that runs on a
>> raspberry pi.
>> > > When the patch loads, it initially loads all the samples it finds in
>> > > /home/pi/SamplePacks/SamplePack1, SamplePack2 etc..
>> > > into RAM using the standard approach:
>> > > - create two tables for each sample
>> > > - read data into tables with [read -resize table1 table2(
>> > > Afterwards I use [soundfiler] and calculate the frequency for [phasor]
>> > > and so on and so forth.
>> > > The patch works when I load a total amount of 500 gb into RAM.
>> > > Today I tested to load 9 GB of samples and the result (obviously) is
>> the
>> > > pi crashing.
>> > > I have tested on a raspberry pi 2 and a raspberry pi 3. Both pis only
>> > > have 1 GB of RAM so it's obvious that problems arise trying to load 9
>> GB
>> > > of samples.
>> > > Do you have any hints or ideas how I could solve this problem? Loading
>> > > from disk while performing is not an option (I think) because of
>> audio pops.
>> > > Do you know any ways to extend the RAM of the pi?
>> > > Maybe you know of some other small boards like beagle or so that have
>> > > more RAM than a pi.
>> > > Thank you very much! Jakob
>> > >
>> > >
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