[PD] [r pd-dsp-started] was: Re: samplerate~

[Christof Ressi]

 > I honestly get lost in most of the internal messages and forget which 
ones are "public" and which aren't.

To be fair, "pd-dsp-started" / "pd-dsp-stopped" are not mentioned in the 
change log. I also discovered them by accident (probably from reading 
the [samplerate~] help patch).

It would be cool if there was a central place where all (public) Pd and 
canvas messages are documented. The canvas messages are especially messy 
because they are currently split across several help patches and 
examples...

Christof

On 19.02.2020 13:30, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> Hah, then I'm wrong. If it's documented, it's canon! I honestly get 
> lost in most of the internal messages and forget which ones are 
> "public" and which aren't.
>
> No, the regression isn't much different, it's more that things such as 
> "dynamic patching" were never really intended form the start and 
> became canon, to some extent.
>
>> On Feb 19, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at 
>> <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at> wrote:
>>
>> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 10:46:07 +0100
>> From: "Peter P." <peterparker at fastmail.com 
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>> * Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> 
>> [2020-02-19 10:38]:
>>> I would also point out that internal messages such as pd-dsp-started 
>>> don't really come with an expected behavior for user patches. Saying 
>>> how it works is a "bug" belies that fact that I don't believe it was 
>>> ever intended to be used for this and just because it can be grabbed 
>>> via a [r] also doesn't guarantee anything.
>> The method you point out is shown in the help patch of [samplerate~]
>> without any reference that it should be considered a bug or temporary
>> measure.
>>
>>> This is also why it's so hard to change almost *any* behavior within 
>>> Pd as you can never really be 100% certain you aren't breaking 
>>> someone's end use case.
>> Do you feel this regression condition is much different in other 
>> software?
>>
>> best, P
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