[PD] canvas window "relocate" message strangeness ...

[oliver]

hans w. koch wrote:
> hi,
> 
> on mac os 10.14.6 and pd 51-0 i don´t see scrollbars in any your examples
> (i don´t have the propertybang installed, so your last case doesn´t apply)
> 
> am i missing sth?

no, but i was forgetting to include my specs ;-)

this occurs in Debian (4.19.98), PD 0.50.2

i also tested it on Windows 7, no scrollbars there.
obviously not on OSX either.

[propertybang] is not necessary to test this. it just seems that remote 
messages to relocate a window position (that don't produce what i call 
"visual representation" of a "click") lead to this scrollbar occurance.

([propertybang] does such a thing. you right-click on an "abstraction" 
and a "PROPERTIES" entry can be selected, just like in a vslider etc.
Inside this abstraction a bang is sent out the IEMGUTS object 
[propertybang] - which i then use to open a specific window)

are there any other ways to open PD canvases with a specific size and 
position anybody here can think of ?

best

Oliver


> 
> best
> hans
> 
>> Am 05.06.2020 um 01:40 schrieb oliver <oliver at klingt.org>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> i just discovered a really strange phenomenon when opening patch windows with remote messages
>>
>> Attached is a test patch that presents the "problem":
>>
>> The window is always opening with active scroll sidebars, even though there's nothing to scroll.
>>
>> The only exception is, when the "relocate" message mechanism is done "by hand". Messages that are sent remotely or with a delay produce the scrollbars.
>>
>> It really seems that the visual representation of a clicked BANG or a [message box( comes into play here, though i don't understand how or why.
>>
>> It seems as if only as long as the window messages are passed WITHIN the "visual representation time" (in lack of a better description ... i mean the short thickening of the border of a message box when it is clicked with the mouse) the window is opening as it should (without sidebars).
>>
>> I discovered this phenomenon using the [propertybang] external from IEMGUTS, where the window would only open with said sidebars.
>>
>> To make matters worse, this behaviour is not consistent, but seems a little random. What's sure though, is that only a direct mouseclick onto a bang or message box reliably opens the window without sidebars.
>>
>> Feels a little voodoo-ish to me ...
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Oliver
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