[PD] Please keep deken package online

[Christof Ressi]

Hi Alex,

just to sum up and emphasize what Roman has been saying: it's good 
practice to keep old releases around, because existing projects might 
depend on it. This is especially relevant in the case of "else", since 
there are breaking changes between beta versions.

Of course, you're free to tell users to get old releases from GitHub, 
but IMO this defeats the purpose of Deken.

As Roman mentioned, Deken shows the library in decreasing order of the 
version number. To get the most recent version, people just have to 
click the first entry.

So please consider not removing "else" releases from Deken in the future.

Christof

On 08.06.2020 09:27, Roman Haefeli wrote:
> On Sun, 2020-06-07 at 19:34 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>> The reason now, like I told you, is that I was/am trying to merge
>> into the same download the inclusion of my tutorial as a single combo
>> pack... so I put it down and tried to reupload but failed.
> I see. What I'm actually suggesting is to do not touch already released
> versions at all. If you make changes, then it should have a new version
> and you should create a new release for this new version. At least that
> is how I think releases should be handled and it seems already common
> practice in Deken (and probably everywhere else in the software world).
> Of course, you're free to do whatever you want with your software.
>
>> I've been asked before to keep old stuff and we discussed this
>> before, and I agreed it wouldn't hurt to keep not that many old
>> versions around. It gets to a point where things change so much and
>> so quickly that I just thought it was too much pollution to keep old
>> stuff around
> I don't see the problem of pollution as long as you release new
> versions with a higher version number (which you do). Newest version
> appears on top in Deken. Right now, Deken provides the ELSE library
> only for two architectures.
>
>>   so I had this policy. But the thing now is that I'm trying to do
>> this, and it got out of hand and over complicated, sorry.
>>
>> But it seems now I'm being able to do it, let's see it in a day.
>>
>> I can also just put the last version back if you give me a moment,
> You don't have put stuff back solely for me.
>
>> and I'm still curious, how does your script work? Can you please tell
>> me more about your needs?
> Actually, I shouldn't have mentioned my script. It's not relevant to
> the discussion. My point is to not confuse regular users of the
> library. I think they should have easy access to previous versions when
> they develop their patches dependent on the library, for instance for
> testing regressions.
>
> My script simply downloads the library from a configured URL and
> extracts it to the right place, nothing fancy  [1].
>
>> Actually, I'm also now concerned if this script will work with my
>> attempt to pack two folders into a single download for deken.
> Again, you should not be concerned about my script, but about regular
> users.
>
>
> Roman
>
>
> [1] I got many complaints about how hard is to install netpd, that's
> why I'm trying to create standalone applications for macOS and Windows
> with Pd+externals+netpd+instruments bundled. The script also downloads
> and extracts the ELSE library.
>
>
>
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