[PD] RPI stereo USB audio was: audio interface with multiple ins on raspberry pi

Dan Wilcox danomatika at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 17:06:48 CEST 2020


Yeah, I know a lot of these small mini-jack boards work, but I require XML and jack inputs and stereo jack outputs.

> On Oct 7, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Antoine Rousseau <antoine at metalu.net> wrote:
> 
> I've never had much trouble (rpi2/3/3b/3b+/4...)  with this kind of thing:
> https://www.gotronic.fr/art-adaptateur-audio-usb-21834.htm <https://www.gotronic.fr/art-adaptateur-audio-usb-21834.htm> (warning: unfortunately mono input only)
> I could run full-duplex Pd at less than 10ms latency (of course it depends on your actual patch).
> 
> However older (while more expensive) boards (like Alesis io4) have sometimes been a lot trickier!
> 
> So it seems to me that it depends more on the audio device than on the computer model.
> 
> 
> Le mer. 7 oct. 2020 à 15:58, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> a écrit :
> Thanks Josh, good to know. Now that the RPI 4 has a controller chip, I should probably try one again.
> 
> I had some success for a project using a quad-core Udoo board circa 2013 but it was also more expensive than the Pis at that time and a bit overkill. It *did* however have a USB controller chip.
> 
>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Josh Moore <kh405.7h30ry at gmail.com <mailto:kh405.7h30ry at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The Pi 2 and 3's usb were very much hacks due to the limitations of the Broadcom chip. It's fixed in the Pi4. See here for info: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/usb/README.md <https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/usb/README.md> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 5:18 AM Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> To add on to Chris's question with a tangent, have any of you had good experience with bog-standard stereo USB Audio interfaces and RPI 3 or 4?
>> 
>> Some years ago now, I tried to use an RPI 2 with my trusty USB 1.1 standard audio interface (Roland Edirol UA-25) which is full-duplex stereo, 2 in / 2 out. I could never get it to work well in full-duplex mode without dropouts, even with a low-latency kernel and other real-time tweaks. In the end, it seemed the USB driver on the RPI was simply not designed for the "isynchronous audio" this requires.
>> 
>> The same device worked well on my original wearable, a Pentium 3 500 MHz machine but with a dedicated USB controller chip.
>> 
>> In the end, I decided to move toward iOS for embedded/wearable (hence PdParty) and the same device works very well at low-latencies on iPads and my (now old) iPhone 5S.
>> 
>> I'd like to still be able to run the setup with alternate systems, so does anyone have experience that the USB drivers have been improved? Thanks in advance
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list-request at lists.iem.at> wrote:
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>>> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 10:48:48 +0800
>>> From: Chris McCormick <chris at mccormick.cx <mailto:chris at mccormick.cx>>
>>> To: PD List <pd-list at iem.at <mailto:pd-list at iem.at>>
>>> Subject: [PD] audio interface with multiple ins on raspberry pi
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>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Same question as the previous poster but I was wondering about inputs 
>>> rather than outputs. Ideal solution:
>>> 
>>>  * USB.
>>>  * Low cost.
>>>  * More than 2 channels in.
>>>  * Headphone sized jacks.
>>>  * Works with Raspberry Pi.
>>> 
>>> I've searched but could not find such a beast. Any hints?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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