[PD] MIDI in vanilla?

[João Pais]

if multiarrays with data structures are necessary, they already exist in
[jmmmp/multiarray]

a choice between int and float types signed and unsigned without conversion
> is what you need
>
> Many scripting languages have a single number type. The only "problem"
> with Pd is that this number type is a float and not a double, so it's easy
> to run into precision issues. But for bytes, a float is large enough ;-)
> Yes, you waste some space, but who cares?
>
> Also, you can create multidimensional arrays with data structures, if you
> really need it (yes, it is awkward, but it is certainly possible). On the
> other hand, if all subarrays are the same size, it is trivial to embed them
> in a single flat array...
>
> Apart from that, a MIDI file parser is not something you would typically
> write in a visual programming language. That's why we have a C external for
> that ;-)
>
> Christof
> On 26.10.2020 13:56, Josh Moore wrote:
>
> I think it comes down to PD's horrible selection of array types. Having
> arrays with multi dimensions that can be a choice between int and float
> types signed and unsigned without conversion is what you need otherwise you
> will run into this wall all over the place and you're looking at a c
> compiler or interpreted language external to make what exists in almost
> every other language (ie make 16 arrays with 127 dimensions for each note
> with byte alignment containing n points or whatever) as three lines of code
> doable on a system that has only 2d arrays and float types.
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020, 4:12 AM Christof Ressi <info at christofressi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree that we really need a way to read/write binary data. I have
>> already thought about doing a PR to add such functionality to graphical
>> arrays. It would be as simple as adding a flag to the [read( and [write(
>> methods.
>>
>> In theory, it would be possible then to implement a MIDI file
>> reader/writer as a Pd abstraction. But to be honest, I think only a
>> masochist would do that :-)
>>
>> On the other hand, mrpeach's [midifile] has always served me well and
>> it's one of those things that don't really get obsolete. So I don't think
>> that Pd really needs built-in MIDI file support. After all, even a
>> kitchen-sink language like Supercollider doesn't come with built-in MIDI
>> file support.
>>
>> Christof
>> On 26.10.2020 11:11, Roman Haefeli wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2020-10-26 at 03:32 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
>>
>>
>> It feels to me Vanilla should be able to read/write MIDI files, but I
>> wonder how. Any ideas on how this could work in a "vanilla way"
>> (light and simple)?
>>
>> To use Miller's words from another thread, I think reading/writing MIDI
>> files would be an application for which the infrastructure is still
>> missing: reading from/writing to binary files (unless I missed some
>> recent development).
>>
>> Both would be cool, accessing them from disk directly and load/dump
>> them to/from tables.
>>
>> Roman
>>
>>
>
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