i'm on windows 10 , Pd 51.0 my patch created with ofelia 3.1 is not working anymore with version 4.0 objects cannot be created. how come? rolf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20201112/2e82ca35/attachment.html>