[PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
Óscar Santis
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Thu Nov 25 00:57:50 CET 2021
> - The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list
> box instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut
> (cmd+5) is for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut?cmd+5
> and comments get cmd+6?
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> 1. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Alexandre Torres Porres)
> 2. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Christof Ressi)
> 3. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Antoine Rousseau)
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> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:06:02 -0300
> From: Alexandre Torres Porres <porres at gmail.com>
> To: Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
> Cc: Pd-List <pd-list at lists.iem.at>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
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> Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts for
> starters :)
>
> - Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't
> really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we make
> this an optional feature to check/activate somewhere and leave the default
> as it were?
>
> *Related to atoms/list boxes:*
>
> - The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list box
> instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut (cmd+5) is
> for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut cmd+5 and comments
> get cmd+6?
>
> - the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always have to make it
> shorter, who needs that big boxes most the time? can't we make the same as
> before?
>
> - something is funny on symbol boxes, if I type a number in it and sendd it
> to [float], float does not understand it and cannot convert it anymore to
> float.
>
> - also float/symbol/list boxes. If I type '$0-x' as a send or receive name,
> I get '#0-x' when I reopen the preferences. This used to be something that
> happened for iemguis and we fixed it, but now these boxes have it.
>
> - if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped (and seemingly
> ilegal) "," symbol.
>
> cheers
>
>
> Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 ?s 13:45, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
> escreveu:
>
> > I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason.
> >
> > Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :)
> >
> > Miller
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > > Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html
> > >
> > >
> > > now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from Pd-announce for the test
> > > versions as usual, how come?
> > >
> > >
> > > I have some issues I have to report, by the way.
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers
> >
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> From: Christof Ressi <info at christofressi.com>
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> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out
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> Hey,
>
> On 23.11.2021 18:06, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> > Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts
> > for starters :)
> >
> > - Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't
> > really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we
> > make this an optional feature to check/activate somewhere and leave
> > the default as it were?
> Personally, I quite like it. Yes, it is a bit unsettling in the
> beginning, but I think it's one of those things that you get accustomed
> to very quickly.
> >
> > *_Related?to atoms/list boxes:_*
> >
> > - The shortcut for symbol box (cmd+4) is gone, it now load the list
> > box instead, no shortcut is given for symbol and the next shortcut
> > (cmd+5) is for comments as before. Why not have list as shortcut?cmd+5
> > and comments get cmd+6?
> I think *changing* existing shortcuts is a bad idea. So I think we
> should leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new list
> atom. After all, a list atom is *not* a drop-in replacement for a symbol
> atom (numbers and spaces are handled differently!)
> >
> > - the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always have to make
> > it shorter, who needs that big boxes most the time? can't we make the
> > same as before?
> I tend to agree. I think Miller just used the same default width for
> both list atoms and symbol atoms.
> >
> > - something is funny on symbol boxes, if I type a number in it and
> > sendd it to [float], float does not understand it and cannot convert
> > it anymore to float.
> Actually, the problem is really this: when you type a number in symbol
> box and hit enter, the text just disappears and it outputs an empty
> symbol. Of course, [float] can't convert empty symbols :-)
> >
> > - also float/symbol/list boxes. If I type '$0-x' as a send or receive
> > name, I get '#0-x' when I reopen the preferences. This used to be
> > something that happened for iemguis and we fixed it, but now these
> > boxes have it.
> Confirmed! As a side note, we still can't have "#" in atom labels :-(
> >
> > - if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped (and
> > seemingly ilegal) "," symbol.
>
> Generally, list atoms contain FUDI strings and colons, semicolons and
> dollars have special meanings. You have to escape them explicitly if you
> want them to part of a symbol.
>
> "foo,bar" -> 3 atoms
>
> "foo\,bar" -> 1 symbol atom
>
> However, you're right that the list atom forgets to bash those special
> to symbols, so you end up with A_SEMI, A_COMMA, A_DOLLAR and A_DOLLSYM
> atoms on the patch level - which is bad!
>
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 ?s 13:45, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu>
> > escreveu:
> >
> > I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason.
> >
> > Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :)
> >
> > Miller
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres
> > wrote:
> > > Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html
> > >
> > >
> > > now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from Pd-announce for
> > the test
> > > versions as usual, how come?
> > >
> > >
> > > I have some issues I have to report, by the way.
> > >
> > >
> > > cheers
> >
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> > leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new list atom
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