[PD] Creating/editing patches on android?

[Matevz Leskovsek]

Dan thanks! Yes your considerations are reasonable but sadly pd has
really lost its "livecoding" angle when Android/iOS devices became so
popular. Smartphones are portable and have so many sensors that
livecoding on android would really make much more sense than coding on
desktop and deploying to smartphone for each change. I hope there will
be some effort to rewrite pd-lib to run in stock android and I am
willing to help (although I am worst programmer ever.. I am kinda good
tester and profiler though). And if it is actually possible to run
pd-lib on rooted android that is interesting but I am somewhat
suspicious. If there is a linux container for androids that would be
easier I guess (but not so RAM friendly). Btw, I've noticed purrdata
js runtime for pd is available but again I think it does not allow
patch creation/editing, only patch running? Btw, pddroidparty webpage
is really nicely organised and clear in its communication -> much
respect! Thanks!

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 12:21 AM Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Howdy Matevz,
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> I don't believe so, although I must include the caveat tat I do not use Android, so perhaps there is something out there I am not aware of.
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> Running patches via libpd in a mobile app is much easier than creating a live, graphical *editor* as with desktop Pd as:
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> 1. the interaction metaphors are different
> 2. libpd does not have a way to tap into the core pd editing logic (yet)
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> That being said (written?), it's certainly possible to create something that can automate writing a Pd file which can then be loaded by libpd, however, once things complicated enough, you basically end up duplicating most of the core logic with the detriment that you have to carefully try to keep it up to date with whatever version of pd / libpd you are using. In short: it's a lot of thankless work that is best *not* done without lots of interest, resources, and support.
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> The closest thing I can think of is rooting the device to install a Linux distro so you can run *desktop* Pd, however I don't think this is where your question is focused.
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> As the author of PdParty, which utilizes libpd on iOS, I made a clear decision early on to *not* tackle on-device editing, mainly for the reasons mentioned above.
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> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request at lists.iem.at wrote:
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> Hi all, as I remember all those PD on Android platforms (mobmuplat,
> pddroid) only allowed running patches and not editing those, meaning
> that one needed a desktop computer to create and edit patches. Is this
> still the case or is it possible now to use Android device for
> creating and running pd patches. Thanks!
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