[PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif (like ggee/image) ?

Ingo ingo at miamiwave.com
Fri Apr 14 15:41:06 CEST 2023


I'm running a bunch of external libraries.
Pd-L2Ork has many libraries included but I would have to go through all 
objects on different (Linux) hardware - like Intel, AMD and ARM.

I'll check it out once I have some spare time . . .

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico at vt.edu]
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2023 2:45 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-list
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif 
(like ggee/image) ?

No worries, Ingo. If you do have a moment, I am curious to learn what may 
require adapting when switching since all the vanilla objects are supported, 
save for those that were recently introduced and which will be ported soon. 
So, the older patches should run out-of-box.

Best,

Ico

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On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, 05:32 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ico!

That's too bad . . .
It looks great but it would take me a year to switch my patch (that I wrote
for 15 years now) to Pd-L2Ork.
>From running just a simple audio test it didn't seem to be as efficient as
vanilla, though.
Too much risk of wasting a lot of time.

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico at vt.edu]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 2:06 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Pd-list
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

Pd-L2Ork only due to different front-end and changes to the core.
Best,

Ico

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Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology

Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
ico at vt.edu

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On Thu, Apr 13, 2023, 04:56 Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com> wrote:
Thanks, Ico!

This sounds great!

But is it going to work on a regular vanilla install (Pd 0.49 / Debian 9.5) ?
Or does it need Pd-L2Ork installed?

Ingo



From: Ico Bukvic [mailto:ico at vt.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 8:52 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Alexandre Torres Porres; pd-list at lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

You could also explore Pd-L2Ork's reimplementation of ggee/image that includes
all of the things you mentioned, provides all-in-one functionality from all of
the existing/legacy vanilla image objects, can easily rescale, supports
transparency and any Web-compatible image format, as well as offers an ability
to track clicks, including their location.

Best,

Ico

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Director, Creativity + Innovation
Director, Human-Centered Design iPhD
Institute for Creativity, Arts, and Technology
Virginia Tech
Creative Technologies in Music
School of Performing Arts - 0141
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-6139
ico at vt.edu

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ico.bukvic.net



On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:39?PM Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com> wrote:
Buttons or knobs with JPGs (or other picture formats) would be a great
addition for making a good looking user interface.
When making a button it would be great to have the option for adding an
alternative picture directly for on/off instead of writing complicated code in
Pd.

One thing that Pd is really bad with is putting things in the background (for
background pictures) or in the foreground for e.g. a button on top.
Also placing the picture from the top left corner (normal for canvas) makes
more sense than from the center (as it is the case with [ggee/image]) to me.

Changing the size of the image would be awsome!
It's very timeconsuming going back into the graphics editor to change the
picture to fit the exact size each time you change your mind about the
placement and size.

Ingo



From: Alexandre Torres Porres [mailto:porres at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2023 6:19 PM
To: Ingo
Cc: Peter P.; pd-list at lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

I also have else/pic which is based on these older ones. I also allow it to
work as a button and have new features like a 'latch mode'.

Let me know if I can improve the object to include more modern options for
higher quality files. I see that back when these other objects were made
tcl/tk was pretty limited. Not sure if this has changed and if it can handle
jpg and other formats nowadays. I'd appreciate if someone could enlighten me

cheers

Em seg., 3 de abr. de 2023 às 05:02, Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com> escreveu:
Thanks Peter!

The moonlib/image is pretty much the same as ggee/image.

I have found out,though that it takes ppm files which are uncompressed and
look much better.
Whith this data format I actually get the quality that I need.

I'll also take a look at iemgui's iem_image.

Ingo


-----Original Message-----
From: Pd-list [mailto:pd-list-bounces at lists.iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter P.
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 10:17 PM
To: pd-list at lists.iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] object for showing images with a better quality than gif
(like ggee/image) ?

http://deken.puredata.info/search.html?libraries=&objects=image&descriptions
=
returns a result for moonlib. And then there is iemgui's iem_image object
https://git.iem.at/pd/iemgui/-/blob/master/iem_image-help.pd

Did not test any of those, but thought you might want to know about the
deken search engine.

* Ingo <ingo at miamiwave.com> [2023-04-01 15:49]:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have been using [ggee/image] for showing simple (medium small)
> images which is working fine.
>
> But now I need to show a large full HD picture in the full 1920x1080
> resolution and [ggee/image] gives me too many pixels.
>
>
>
> Can anyone poind me to an external that can display high resolution JPGs?
>
>
>
> I had been using [gem] to do this before which is working fine on
> Intel and ARM machines but for some reason not on AMD.
>
> At least not in my case and the situation that I need it to work in.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated!
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ingo
>

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