[PD] Deken not showing ELSE external and others on Raspberry Pi with Debian 12

Linux Rouen Normandie linux.rouen at free.fr
Sat Feb 3 20:07:07 CET 2024

What I said about 2 months ago is:
- At that time the main used RPi OS was/is v.11 32-bit (based on Debian 
- This OS was/is largely used on all RPi H/W, either 32-bit and/or 
64-bit capable.

Since RPi OS 12 64-bit (based on Debian Bookworm) became official on 
11th Oct. 2023 
this one will slowly but surely replace RPi OS 11/12 32-bit on the 
compatible hardware; i.e. 3B, 3B+, 3A+, 4B, 400, 5, CM3, CM3+, CM4, 
CM4S, and Zero 2 W.

My RPi 400 (4 GB RAM) has a chip-set which can run both 32 and 64-bit OSs.
Up to about 2 months ago I was only running under RPi OS 11 32-bit, as 
recommended by the RPi Foundation (64-bit was not considered as being 
enough completed).
Now I'm also running under RPi OS 12 64-bit but this one is still buggy 
vs. the previous 32-bit version.

Regarding Pd/Deken (I built it from the source code), I was obliged for 
both RPi OS 11 32-bit and RPi OS 12 64-bit to change the default 
platform to a user-defined platform to be able to get access to a larger 
externals offer.

During my Pd 0.54-1 compilation under RPi OS 12 64-bit I got:
pd 0.54.1 is now configured
     Platform:             Linux
     Float size:           default
     Deken identifier:     linux-arm64

After my today RPi OS 12 64-bit system update, I have:
     OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
     Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
     Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi8_-rpi-v8
                 -when just few hours ago I had-
     OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
     Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
     Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi7_-rpi-v8
           -when just after this OS installation I had-
     OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) aarch64
     Host: Raspberry Pi 400 Rev 1.0
     Kernel: 6.1.0-_rpi6_-rpi-v8

I hope this clarifies a little bit my previous writings. 😉

The Pd/Deken platform detection issue remains open.
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Le 03/02/2024 à 16:18, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2024 at 09:55 Linux Rouen Normandie 
> <linux.rouen at free.fr> wrote:
>     Well - well, who said I have said that !? 😕
> I can clearly be wrong with what you said, but then explain again 
> please :) I just remember something that you mentioned armv8 64 bits 
> is really rare
>     Now on my RPi 400, I'm running since few weeks the latest RPi OS
>     12 64-bit (Debian Bookworm).
>     At least up to few weeks ago Else was not available for this
>     platform, except the old v.1.0-0 rc-6.
>     This why for each release I 'm building Else from its source code
>     including the missing 4 objects [sfont~], [circuit~], [sfz~] and
>     [plaits~].
>     Here my understanding is for seeing the available librairies in
>     Deken we need to change the Default platform 'Linux-armv8-32' to
>     the User defined-platform 'Linux-arm64-32'.
>     See the attached screen capture.
> But shouldn’t it get it right without this?
>     Best,
>     Joseph
>     ----------
>     Le 03/02/2024 à 07:39, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit :
>>     Hi, to add  on the discussion, Francisco talked to me in private
>>     and I asked him to bring this to the list.
>>     First, I stopped offering raspberry pi binaries for amv8 for a
>>     while now. Joseph (Linux ROUEN Normandie) said that that it'd be
>>     really rare for someone to use it, and Francisco is using it and
>>     needs it, so I'd like to get this straight. Apparently I should
>>     bother and offer these binaries again. Francisco, do you know why
>>     you need this and not something else? Joseph, can you join in the
>>     discussion and tell us again why this should not be necessary?
>>     Last release I have with 'armv8' binaries is rc6, still up in
>>     deken. Francisco confirmed they work, but it doesn't show up for
>>     him! I am now about to release rc11, and I keep only the 5 last
>>     releases in the serve so I don't take too much space, so rc6 is
>>     about to be deleted. I just uploaded (after Francisco's email)
>>     rc11 binaries for pi (armv6, armv7 and armv8). It's up in
>>     deken... I dont think I need the 3 of them, but is seems I need
>>     at least 2, right?
>>     Now, these uploaded packagee misses 4 objects, [sfont~],
>>     [circuit~], [sfz~] and [plaits~]. I need help compiling them for
>>     armv8 and whatever ELSE I need to provide, so what we have up
>>     there now is just a *test* until we can figure things out. The
>>     dekn system uploaded the packages as 'Linux-arm64-32
>>     / Linux-armv7-32 / Linux-armv6-32'. Francisco seems to need
>>     'Linux-arm64-32', ('armv8'), and it doesn't show.
>>     Em sex., 2 de fev. de 2024 às 21:50, Francisco Medeiros
>>     <excalibas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>          Deken is not showing the ELSE external, nor many other
>>         externals available for Linux-Arm64-32.
>>     see?
>>         When starting deken says Platform detected:
>>         Linux-aarch64-float32" and "Platform re-detected:
>>         Linux-armv8-float32".
>>     Why both? Now I wonder that maybe it should have detected 
>>     'Linux-arm64-32' instead? I don't know...
>>     cheers
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