[PD-ot] Re: [PD] FTM 1.4.1 for PD?

Christian Klippel ck at mamalala.de
Tue Mar 22 01:20:18 CET 2005


hi again,

[im moving this to pd-ot since it is really nothing pd related]

now that i had a really good laugh, some clarification may be due :

[...]
>
> FTM is one of the more promising remnants left of the corpse
> what was once called jMax.
>

first, the combination of java/swing is just the worst you can choose for a 
responsive gui, not to talk about something suitable for realtime use.

next, ftm is just a re-implementation of jmax, basically. yes, i know, some 
would object to this, but how would read this :
"FTM is based on the FTS server of the jMax project ....", given the fact that 
the "server" was just all about jmax but the gui, which was the "client" ?

last but not least some words on the general pitfalls with ircam open source :

jmax was open sourced by ircam. they miserably failed the open source idea  
somehow. mayinly, because they (yes, as a whole, and not a single person) can 
not communicate.
when the jmax list closed, i was upset. yea, i was. not mainly for myself.
did you read any "thanks for you interrest" or "thanks for your contributions" 
or the like spoken to the public ? i mean, really, there where people who 
used jmax, who relied on the proposals of an forthcomming of the software. 
how would it feel to you if you start a project with a given software, just 
to figure out you have to start at almost 0 with the next update ?
what about users reporting errors, that are propsed to get fixed. but then, 
some _completely_ different comes out....
and now, that many of this things gone down as ftm, without a "thanks" to 
anyone involved, would you really contribute to it ?

oh, and remember: for whatever reason i dont know, the main force behind jmax, 
f. dechelle, is gone. now, his work is going to be trashed as a plugin to a 
software that is _closed_ and _pricey_. how do you expect to attract 
open-source developers to work on a platform they have to spent a lot of 
money beforehand, and is completely against their open-source idea ?

and for that, it doesnt matter any if ftm itself is open source or not.
better not, so they can not fool another bunch of people .....

> AvS
>

greets,

chris

(p.s.: can you make your sig shorter ? most of it is linked on you main site 
anyway, isnt it ? no offense ;-)





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