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Ed Kelly morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
Tue Nov 19 16:40:35 CET 2013


Oh Man!

Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬!
Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students will find this really helpful.

Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread. 

Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my end ;-)

Ed


 
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http://www.ninjajamm.com/


Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
http://sharktracks.co.uk/ 



On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 15:15, Antonio Roberts <antonio at hellocatfood.com> wrote:
 

>> I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No mention of Antonio Roberts!
>I'm one of the tech reviewers ;-)
>
>> Well in that case I apologise.  Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd
>> already published a book with them (blushing).
>I didn't publish the book, just did a tech review of it. As I briefly 
>said in a comment in the G+ thread, it wasn't a bad experience but not 
>a great one either. I considered it a good way to give back to the 
>community (yes, I know you have to buy the book) and get my name "out 
>there", but now that I've done it once I won't be doing it again and 
>definitely not for them ;-)
>
>(on a separate note I'm also thinking about reviving the Pure Data 
>Documentation Project)
>
>To me it seems like Packt are a legitimate business but aer telling a 
>few porkies with regards to royalties
>
>On Tue 19 Nov 2013 14:24:23 GMT, Julian Brooks wrote:
>> Hey Ed (& Antonio),
>>
>> Well in that case I apologise.  Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise you'd
>> already published a book with them (blushing).
>>
>> My first comment was more from a reading of the original link that
>> Antonio forwarded.  And from that, Packt look well suss.
>>
>> There's certainly no shortage of dodgy publishers about (nor record
>> labels for that matter) - guess it depends on the deal you can wangle.
>>
>>
>> On 19 November 2013 14:00, Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
>> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>     PS Antonio, nice favicon :)
>>
>>     Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune
>>     and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>>    http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>>
>>
>>     Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
>>    http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>     On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
>>     <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>         Damn - they changed Yahoo mail recently and I can't seem to
>>         find it. However, www.hellocatfood.com
>>         <http://www.hellocatfood.com> does indeed seem to be genuine,
>>         and Antonio does indeed seem to be a performer with multimedia
>>         performer using Pure Data.
>>
>>         This doesn't look like a hack, but "free money" should always
>>         be treated with suspicion I'm sure.
>>
>>         Probably the best way forward is for one of us to get in touch
>>         with Packt publishing and request clarification.
>>
>>         Cheers,
>>         Ed
>>
>>         Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja
>>         Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>>        http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>>
>>
>>         Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
>>         dynamics!
>>        http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>         On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
>>         <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>             Hmm. I couldn't get the post Antonio was referring to in
>>             his email. This could be a very sophisticated form of
>>             phishing I suppose. Apologies for my naivety!
>>
>>             I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in
>>             front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No
>>             mention of Antonio Roberts!
>>
>>             I'll just take a look at the header for the email and get
>>             back to you. Let's not take too much time in dealing with
>>             this.
>>
>>             Ed
>>             Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from
>>             Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>>            http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>>
>>
>>             Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
>>             dynamics!
>>            http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>             On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 13:41, Julian Brooks
>>             <jbeezez at gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 Is this some kind of so-dry-I-don't-get-it humour 'cos
>>                 they look well suss
>>
>>                 J
>>
>>
>>                 On 19 November 2013 13:21, Ed Kelly
>>                 <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
>>                 <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Wow!
>>
>>                     Is the Pd foundation up and running? I haven't
>>                     followed the news (if there is any) regarding this.
>>
>>                     Perhaps this is within your scope Hans?
>>
>>                     Ed
>>
>>                     Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app
>>                     from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
>>                    http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>>
>>
>>                     Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data,
>>                     now with dynamics!
>>                    http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>                     On Monday, 18 November 2013, 19:53, Antonio
>>                     Roberts <antonio at hellocatfood.com
>>                     <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         A representative of Packt Publishing recently
>>                         put out a call to
>>                         developers of open source software packages
>>                         that are covered in their
>>                         books to get in contact regarding royalties.
>>                         They claim that they give
>>                         money to the authors _and_ the project that
>>                         the book is based upon.
>>                         Text below:
>>
>>                         "I'm sorry that we haven't yet been able to
>>                         make this clear. I will
>>                         have this looked in to and revised for clarity.
>>                         But, to confirm, authors receive royalties on
>>                         sales of their books but
>>                         we also give a royalty, where the book is
>>                         based on an Open Source
>>                         software or system, to the Project.
>>                         I'm not at liberty to disclose the names of
>>                         projects that have
>>                         received this royalty, only that cumulatively
>>                         we have given out a
>>                         large sum of money to them.
>>                         Please also treat this as a call out to any
>>                         Open Source project that
>>                         we have published on to get in touch with me
>>                         should they not be
>>                         receiving their royalties, we can only send
>>                         them to you if we have
>>                         your details :) "
>>
>>                         Full thread here:
>>                        https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir
>>                         <https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir>See
>>                         last comment from Jonathan Titmus
>>
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>>                         <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com>
>>                        http://www.hellocatfood.com
>>                         <http://www.hellocatfood.com/>
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