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Antonio Roberts
antonio at hellocatfood.com
Tue Nov 19 17:03:51 CET 2013
> Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬!
> Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough
> books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students
> will find this really helpful.
That's why I agreed to do it. I think there's plenty of resources out
there for PD music/audio programming but none dedicated to just
visuals. The book was a bit too basic for my needs, but it would've
been invaluable to me three years ago!
Also, no need to thank me, I didn't write it! Regardless, I'm glad that
you/your students will find it useful. I'm glad the book now exists, I
just wish Packt were clearer on the whole royalties situation.
> Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans
> Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread.
Hopefully he will. Packt do a lot of books about open source software
so I'll be interested in hearing if those projects get
royalties/support as well.
> Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my
> end ;-)
No harm done ;-) Out of interest, where do you teach?
Antonio
On Tue 19 Nov 2013 15:40:35 GMT, Ed Kelly wrote:
> Oh Man!
>
> Really sorry for my laziness. I just opened it and saw your name!!¬!
> Listen, we're really grateful for your support. There aren't enough
> books about Pure Data programming out there, and I'm sure my students
> will find this really helpful.
>
> Once again, I think the person you need to talk to is Hans
> Cristoph-Steiner, but I am sure he'll read this thread.
>
> Nice to meet you Antonio, even if it was slightly cack-handed from my
> end ;-)
>
> Ed
>
> Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune and
> Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
> http://www.ninjajamm.com/
>
>
> Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
> http://sharktracks.co.uk/
>
>
> On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 15:15, Antonio Roberts
> <antonio at hellocatfood.com> wrote:
>
>
> > I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in front
> of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No mention of
> Antonio Roberts!
> I'm one of the tech reviewers ;-)
>
> > Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise
> you'd
> > already published a book with them (blushing).
> I didn't publish the book, just did a tech review of it. As I briefly
> said in a comment in the G+ thread, it wasn't a bad experience but
> not
> a great one either. I considered it a good way to give back to the
> community (yes, I know you have to buy the book) and get my name "out
> there", but now that I've done it once I won't be doing it again and
> definitely not for them ;-)
>
> (on a separate note I'm also thinking about reviving the Pure Data
> Documentation Project)
>
> To me it seems like Packt are a legitimate business but aer telling a
> few porkies with regards to royalties
>
> On Tue 19 Nov 2013 14:24:23 GMT, Julian Brooks wrote:
> > Hey Ed (& Antonio),
> >
> > Well in that case I apologise. Sorry Antonio, I didn't realise
> you'd
> > already published a book with them (blushing).
> >
> > My first comment was more from a reading of the original link that
> > Antonio forwarded. And from that, Packt look well suss.
> >
> > There's certainly no shortage of dodgy publishers about (nor record
> > labels for that matter) - guess it depends on the deal you can
> wangle.
> >
> >
> > On 19 November 2013 14:00, Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>>>
> wrote:
> >
> > PS Antonio, nice favicon :)
> >
> > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja Tune
> > and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
> > http://www.ninjajamm.com/
> >
> >
> > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
> dynamics!
> > http://sharktracks.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote:
> >
> > Damn - they changed Yahoo mail recently and I can't seem to
> > find it. However, www.hellocatfood.com
> > <http://www.hellocatfood.com
> <http://www.hellocatfood.com/>> does indeed seem to be genuine,
> > and Antonio does indeed seem to be a performer with
> multimedia
> > performer using Pure Data.
> >
> > This doesn't look like a hack, but "free money" should always
> > be treated with suspicion I'm sure.
> >
> > Probably the best way forward is for one of us to get in
> touch
> > with Packt publishing and request clarification.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ed
> >
> > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from Ninja
> > Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
> > http://www.ninjajamm.com/
> >
> >
> > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
> > dynamics!
> > http://sharktracks.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > On , Ed Kelly <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. I couldn't get the post Antonio was referring to in
> > his email. This could be a very sophisticated form of
> > phishing I suppose. Apologies for my naivety!
> >
> > I have the book "Multimedia Programming in Pure Data" in
> > front of me, published by Packt, by Brian WC Chung. No
> > mention of Antonio Roberts!
> >
> > I'll just take a look at the header for the email and get
> > back to you. Let's not take too much time in dealing with
> > this.
> >
> > Ed
> > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app from
> > Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
> > http://www.ninjajamm.com/
> >
> >
> > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with
> > dynamics!
> > http://sharktracks.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, 19 November 2013, 13:41, Julian Brooks
> > <jbeezez at gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez at gmail.com>
> <mailto:jbeezez at gmail.com <mailto:jbeezez at gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Is this some kind of so-dry-I-don't-get-it humour
> 'cos
> > they look well suss
> >
> > J
> >
> >
> > On 19 November 2013 13:21, Ed Kelly
> > <morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>
> > <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
> <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>>> wrote:
> >
> > Wow!
> >
> > Is the Pd foundation up and running? I haven't
> > followed the news (if there is any) regarding
> this.
> >
> > Perhaps this is within your scope Hans?
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > Ninja Jamm - a revolutionary new music remix app
> > from Ninja Tune and Seeper, for iPhone and iPad
> > http://www.ninjajamm.com/
> >
> >
> > Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data,
> > now with dynamics!
> > http://sharktracks.co.uk/
> >
> >
> > On Monday, 18 November 2013, 19:53, Antonio
> > Roberts <antonio at hellocatfood.com
> <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com>
> > <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com
> <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > A representative of Packt Publishing recently
> > put out a call to
> > developers of open source software packages
> > that are covered in their
> > books to get in contact regarding royalties.
> > They claim that they give
> > money to the authors _and_ the project that
> > the book is based upon.
> > Text below:
> >
> > "I'm sorry that we haven't yet been able to
> > make this clear. I will
> > have this looked in to and revised for
> clarity.
> > But, to confirm, authors receive royalties on
> > sales of their books but
> > we also give a royalty, where the book is
> > based on an Open Source
> > software or system, to the Project.
> > I'm not at liberty to disclose the names of
> > projects that have
> > received this royalty, only that cumulatively
> > we have given out a
> > large sum of money to them.
> > Please also treat this as a call out to any
> > Open Source project that
> > we have published on to get in touch with me
> > should they not be
> > receiving their royalties, we can only send
> > them to you if we have
> > your details :) "
> >
> > Full thread here:
> > https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir
> >
> <https://plus.google.com/113862800338869870683/posts/PDVcovR7Sir>See
> > last comment from Jonathan Titmus
> >
> > --
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> > antonio at hellocatfood.com <mailto:antonio at hellocatfood.com>
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> > <http://www.hellocatfood.com/>
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