[PD-ot] Thoughts on live coding visuals in Pure Data

Antonio Roberts antonio at hellocatfood.com
Mon May 5 18:09:37 CEST 2014


> whatever you think is a reasonable feature, is reasonable for at least
> one person (yourself), which i think is good enough to post as a
> feature request.
True. I plan on adding them.

> however, i'm a bit disappointed by statements like "this isn’t
> mentioned at all on the bug tracker". first of all, these are not bugs
> at all, but missing features at best.
Better to refer to it as an issue? I know they're not bugs, but I
can't think of a generic term that would work across all sites. On
Sourceforge they're referred to as tickets, on Github issues. Which is
better or more accurate to use?

> having said that, i would like to have both features (automagically
> turning a part of the patch into a subpatch/abstraction; inserting
> objects) in Pd.
y'see the fact that this wasn't on the bug/issue/feature tracker
suggested to me that no one else wanted to see these features
implemented. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

> btw, i found inserting objects not to be such a big deal: i'm mostly
> live-coding audio in Pd (and btw, i insist on calling it live-coding,
> rather than "live-patching"...but this is probably because i think
> that i do write code rather than merely stacking objects together),
> and i found that it is entirely possible to re-wire audio-signals
> without lengthy silences. when doing graphics only this problem
> appears to be even less prominent.
Correct, but with code/object insertion this wouldn't be an issue at
all and there would be no blackouts.

On 5 May 2014 08:48, IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig at iem.at> wrote:
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> On 2014-05-01 14:52, Antonio Roberts wrote:
>> I admit that my suggestions towards the end do need more thought
>> behind them, but as a starting point do they seem like reasonable
>> requests?
>
> whatever you think is a reasonable feature, is reasonable for at least
> one person (yourself), which i think is good enough to post as a
> feature request.
>
> however, i'm a bit disappointed by statements like "this isn’t
> mentioned at all on the bug tracker". first of all, these are not bugs
> at all, but missing features at best. more importantly, the people
> responsible for posting feature requests are those that require those
> features...in this case this is you.
>
>
> having said that, i would like to have both features (automagically
> turning a part of the patch into a subpatch/abstraction; inserting
> objects) in Pd.
>
> btw, i found inserting objects not to be such a big deal: i'm mostly
> live-coding audio in Pd (and btw, i insist on calling it live-coding,
> rather than "live-patching"...but this is probably because i think
> that i do write code rather than merely stacking objects together),
> and i found that it is entirely possible to re-wire audio-signals
> without lengthy silences. when doing graphics only this problem
> appears to be even less prominent.
>
> fgmadr
> IOhannes
>
>
> PS: iirc, desiredata had all these features by 2007...
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