[Pdweb] [PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]

Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at
Tue Mar 13 03:31:56 CET 2012


On 03/12/2012 08:59 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>
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> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 04:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at at.or.at
> <mailto:hans at at.or.at>> wrote:
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>
>     On Mar 11, 2012, at 7:02 PM, Scott R. Looney wrote:
>
>     > yes i have to admit i'm starting to judge the relevancy of a
>     website at least in part with design modernity. was just looking
>     at various open source 3D gaming engines and i could instantly
>     tell the 2003-2007 era from the 2008-2012 era. i still
>     investigated what each site had to offer, but graphic presentation
>     added to the friendliness/accessibility factor. sites like the
>     current Processing site and Openframeworks.cc seem cleaner and
>     easier to both attract users and navigate.
>     >
>     > my thoughts on the design:
>     >
>     > overall an excellent beginning to a new look! it started me
>     thinking about possible further improvements. so consider this a
>     design brainstorm thingy with NO obligation that anyone has to do
>     what i'm suggesting (especially Marco who started the ball
>     rolling). i don't have any time to do it at the moment (i'm
>     avoiding grading right now) but it certainly gives me ideas, so
>     here we go:
>     >
>     > Navigation
>     >
>     > i'm not pushing this but it seems like side based navigation is
>     sort of less common on modern websites? the look is pretty modern
>     and clean however. Processing (2 columns) and Ofx (2 or 3 - not
>     sure) both use top navigation which i think draws the eye better.
>     i resisted top nav for a while but i think it relates better to
>     subject matter. bigger more graphic pictures on the front page of
>     various projects i think will attract more attention to the
>     artistic aspects. a better top banner is a MUST.
>     >
>     > Exhibition page
>     >
>     > should definitely be overhauled with a much more graphic look
>     whenever possible. Marco's Xth-Sense, Billy's Helmholtz ship
>     animation any other graphic demonstrations of PD in action in
>     realtime either audio wise or using video manipulation ala Gem or
>     whatever should be there in plain view, not just a link to
>     someone's website. No idea if Plone can do graphic grid placement
>     of thumbnails for videos but that's what comes to mind. i'm not
>     against a carousel video thing, but i think it's a consideration
>     for future design.
>     >
>     > if it's just a patch processing audio, i don't know, maybe some
>     audio examples of the patch via a jquery-type player onscreen? the
>     idea is to get folks interested equally in what PD can do as well
>     as finding out more information about the artist if they are so
>     inclined.
>
>     Sounds like good ideas.  If you think those projects should be on
>     the exhibition page, you should just add them:
>     http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingToTheExhibition
>
>     The only rule is that you can't put projects in the exhibition
>     that you had something to do with (no self-promotion).
>
>
>     > Downloads and Distributions - separate categories
>     >
>     > at the moment if i wanted to find out what PD-vanilla or
>     PD-extended was, i'd have to go to the Downloads page. i'm not
>     sure if that's intuitive enough. if i wanted to find out what a
>     distribution was about versus downloading it, i'm not sure if i'd
>     go to Downloads.
>     >
>     > so maybe something labeled Distributions? then put PD-vanilla,
>     PD-extended, and something like l2ork there? i see a huge amount
>     of talk on the list from Ivo about his version and some of it's
>     benefits. i think it should be listed there. there should be
>     Download links of course as well.
>     >
>     > Such a page might also be called 'About PD', give a brief
>     history/description of how PD itself works and then the other
>     variants listed below with download links?
>
>     One of the download sections is labels "distros".  Not good enough?
>
>     .hc 
>
>  
> Wouldn't l2ork belong there? If yes, is it technically possible to
> have it updated there?

I agree, someone just needs to actually add it :)

.hc
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