[Pdweb] new website / upgrading plone version (was: rename "download Pd" to "Downloads")

[András Murányi]

Not knowing much about Plone yet, I agree with the plan, except that step 1
shall be performed by someone having FTP access to the site (IOhannes).
So do I understand right, that rather than migrating the whole content as
it is, you are suggesting a restructuring/cleanup? If so, I support the
idea, but the process will need to be refined further.

András

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Nicolas Montgermont <
nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I was thinking on how we may manage this switching, specially if we must
> have to start from a fresh install, I think there are few clear steps:
>
> 1 - installing a new hidden plone.
> 2 - thinking the architecture of the new site
> 3 - filling the architecture with the "old" content
> 4 - graphical design of the new site
> 5 - filling the website with member contents
> 6 - checking and switching to the new version.
>
> A proposal on how we should do that:
> step 1 : handled by Andras.
> step 2 : discussion on this list
> step 3 : handled by section responsables (if we agree on this kind of
> organisation)
> step 4 : discussion on this list and marco's implementation.
> step 5 : maybe we can send a mail to every member of the actual site to
> have them move their own content?
> step 6 : pdweb-list and maybe pd-list help.
>
> I think it's no problem if we have all this switching lasting a few
> months. The longest step for me is step 5, and I think it's really better
> if we let a long time to people to switch their content.
> An intermediate part of the website between members and architecture is
> the community section, where it is good to have people create their own
> page for patching circles and others. I am ok to write a little tutorial to
> achieve an homogen creation of specific pages, and to write individual
> mails to each local groups member.
>
> best,
> n
>
>
> Le 09/11/12 22:41, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit :
>
>> On 11/09/2012 07:06 PM, András Murányi wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Definitely that is the way. By "duplicating" I meant exactly this: to
>>> make a completely independent, not publicly visible copy of the existing
>>> web site, where we can play around until it's perfect.
>>> Attention: we'll have to take into account, however, that the existing
>>> web site may evolve meanwhile we're playing around with the copy, so
>>> before finally swapping in the new one for the old one, we'll have to
>>> make sure that any content that was added to the new one is reflected on
>>> the new one as well. We'll how see how exactly this is best achieved.
>>>
>>
>> glad to see so much activity here...
>>
>>
>>
>>> About the first steps: according to [1] it's not really a copy of the
>>>
>>
>> the biggest problem i remember is, that the puredata.info instance uses
>> a custom plone product for storing media files on the filesystem rather
>> than within the zodb.
>> currently, there are about 3GB of files external to the zodb; after an
>> upgrade those files should still be available somehow.
>> this might require either someone with zope/plone skills illing to
>> upgrade that product manually or a patient hand (manually copying the
>> files).
>>
>>
>>  existing site that we'll need but an EMPTY Plone 3.3.x install. When
>>> IOhannes has the time to set it up, we're ready to go.
>>>
>>
>> i'm basically out-of-office for the next 2 weeks, but after that my
>> stress level should diminsh considerably.
>>
>>
>> fgmasdr
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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