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[Marco Donnarumma]

hey,
I'm touring in Poland until next week.
I'll take a look when I'm back on monday 8th, if that's not too late.

cheers,
M

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Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
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On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:02 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, I've made a light review.
> It would be nice if other people took a look too before we settle on it.
>
> András
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Nicolas Montgermont <
> nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>
>>  hello all,
>>
>> it should be nice to have any opinion on that. It's been nearly two
>> months now.
>> you can edit directly online or comment here.
>> Best,
>> n
>>
>> Le 26/01/13 10:37, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
>>
>> updated once agin:
>> http://piratepad.net/pPEAhgQS00
>>
>> i've kept the old version down there for comparison, and eventually to
>> cancel the corrections I've made.
>> Please edit directly or comment, correct!
>> best,
>> n
>>
>> Le 24/01/13 11:19, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
>>
>>
>> Le 23/01/13 20:16, András Murányi a écrit :
>>
>> I think the first paragraph is lovely and we shall keep it as it is, to
>> avoid extra iterations.
>> I don't wholeheartedly agree with the rewrite of the 2nd paragraph:
>>
>> I think as well it must be corrected.
>>
>> the points about pd being free and being available in source are missing
>> now,
>>
>> I agree for free. For the sources, as the first line of the text says
>> it's an open source software, I am not sure it's necessary.
>>
>> as well as a the point that pd-extended is more than vanilla+externals
>> but it's also patched.
>>
>> I don't think it's specially relevant when you want to explain
>> Pd-extended in one line.
>>
>> Also, afaik, vanilla is not "written by" Miller but rather "maintained"
>> by him as it contains code from various authors.
>>
>> please edit, I think it's just a question of adding "mainly" somewhere.
>>
>> So, at the end, I personally prefer how this paragraphed looked before
>> the last commit.
>> All this work being quite subjective (as it is free text not program
>> code) *please* give some reasons/rationale when you make change changes:
>> why did you do what you did, what is the improvement? Otherwise we might
>> just keep changing until the end of times :o)
>>
>> You are right:
>> What I wanted to do here is trying to equilibrate the informations. I
>> think it's much more relevant for a newcomer to know what is PD vs Pd
>> extended, than to know Pd is available for IRIX. For me the text is more
>> looking like a technical explanation around Pd, than an introduction to the
>> Pd universe. For example, GEM was not mentionned once in the whole text,
>> but cyclone was. In the end, it is more an introduction for developpers,
>> than for users. What I think we must correct. It's a matter of balancing
>> the informations, and to start from the beginning.
>>
>> I don't think we need the extra paragraph about graphical programming,
>> but a picture of an actual patch would tell a lot (without words).
>>
>> I disagree. The whole point of Pd is patching, but the word is only used
>> once in the text in the sentence:
>> It is easy to extend Pd by nesting reusable patches ("abstractions") or
>> by  utilising object classes ("externals").
>>
>> No words are written on what is a patch. And I think it's totally
>> fundamental.
>>
>> I don't support mixing the 3rd and the 4th paragraph either - they are
>> two different points (extendability, history).
>>
>> If you want. IMHO, Pd extendability can be introduced in a sentence where
>> Pd basic usage needs a paragraph. Max explanations worth a look for
>> comparisons with pd's:
>> http://cycling74.com/whatismax/
>>
>>
>> I think as well the sentence from the 4th paragraph:
>> The core of Pd (aka Pd Vanilla) is written and   maintained by Miller
>> Puckette and includes the work of many developers,   making the whole
>> package very much a community effort.
>>
>> is redundant now.
>>
>> It should be nice to have other opinions on all that?
>> We are close to publishing :)
>> Best,
>> n
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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