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Wed Apr 10 11:31:46 CEST 2013

hey all,

http://piratepad.net/pPEAhgQS00

I just made some edit (in dark violet).
I also copied the previous text below.

It looks good for me, I simply reformulated some sentences, trying to make
it extremely clear.

let me know,
cheers!

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Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Marco Donnarumma <devel at thesaddj.com> wrote:

> hey,
> I'm touring in Poland until next week.
> I'll take a look when I'm back on monday 8th, if that's not too late.
>
> cheers,
> M
>
> --
> Marco Donnarumma
> New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director.
> Embodied Audio-Visual Interaction Research Team.
> Department of Computing, Goldsmiths University of London
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
> Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com
> Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:02 PM, András Murányi <muranyia at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> OK, I've made a light review.
>> It would be nice if other people took a look too before we settle on it.
>>
>> András
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:40 PM, Nicolas Montgermont <
>> nicolas_montgermont at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>>>  hello all,
>>>
>>> it should be nice to have any opinion on that. It's been nearly two
>>> months now.
>>> you can edit directly online or comment here.
>>> Best,
>>> n
>>>
>>> Le 26/01/13 10:37, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
>>>
>>> updated once agin:
>>> http://piratepad.net/pPEAhgQS00
>>>
>>> i've kept the old version down there for comparison, and eventually to
>>> cancel the corrections I've made.
>>> Please edit directly or comment, correct!
>>> best,
>>> n
>>>
>>> Le 24/01/13 11:19, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> Le 23/01/13 20:16, András Murányi a écrit :
>>>
>>> I think the first paragraph is lovely and we shall keep it as it is, to
>>> avoid extra iterations.
>>> I don't wholeheartedly agree with the rewrite of the 2nd paragraph:
>>>
>>> I think as well it must be corrected.
>>>
>>> the points about pd being free and being available in source are missing
>>> now,
>>>
>>> I agree for free. For the sources, as the first line of the text says
>>> it's an open source software, I am not sure it's necessary.
>>>
>>> as well as a the point that pd-extended is more than vanilla+externals
>>> but it's also patched.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's specially relevant when you want to explain
>>> Pd-extended in one line.
>>>
>>> Also, afaik, vanilla is not "written by" Miller but rather "maintained"
>>> by him as it contains code from various authors.
>>>
>>> please edit, I think it's just a question of adding "mainly" somewhere.
>>>
>>> So, at the end, I personally prefer how this paragraphed looked before
>>> the last commit.
>>> All this work being quite subjective (as it is free text not program
>>> code) *please* give some reasons/rationale when you make change changes:
>>> why did you do what you did, what is the improvement? Otherwise we might
>>> just keep changing until the end of times :o)
>>>
>>> You are right:
>>> What I wanted to do here is trying to equilibrate the informations. I
>>> think it's much more relevant for a newcomer to know what is PD vs Pd
>>> extended, than to know Pd is available for IRIX. For me the text is more
>>> looking like a technical explanation around Pd, than an introduction to the
>>> Pd universe. For example, GEM was not mentionned once in the whole text,
>>> but cyclone was. In the end, it is more an introduction for developpers,
>>> than for users. What I think we must correct. It's a matter of balancing
>>> the informations, and to start from the beginning.
>>>
>>> I don't think we need the extra paragraph about graphical programming,
>>> but a picture of an actual patch would tell a lot (without words).
>>>
>>> I disagree. The whole point of Pd is patching, but the word is only used
>>> once in the text in the sentence:
>>> It is easy to extend Pd by nesting reusable patches ("abstractions") or
>>> by  utilising object classes ("externals").
>>>
>>> No words are written on what is a patch. And I think it's totally
>>> fundamental.
>>>
>>> I don't support mixing the 3rd and the 4th paragraph either - they are
>>> two different points (extendability, history).
>>>
>>> If you want. IMHO, Pd extendability can be introduced in a sentence
>>> where Pd basic usage needs a paragraph. Max explanations worth a look for
>>> comparisons with pd's:
>>> http://cycling74.com/whatismax/
>>>
>>>
>>> I think as well the sentence from the 4th paragraph:
>>> The core of Pd (aka Pd Vanilla) is written and   maintained by Miller
>>> Puckette and includes the work of many developers,   making the whole
>>> package very much a community effort.
>>>
>>> is redundant now.
>>>
>>> It should be nice to have other opinions on all that?
>>> We are close to publishing :)
>>> Best,
>>> n
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://nim.on.free.fr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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