[PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

Pedro Lopes pedro.lopes at ist.utl.pt
Sun Feb 13 19:03:23 CET 2011


Once again, I(we've discussed this before) it seems that there is an urgent
name/concept-convention need.

Just brainstorming, but a nice exercise would be:

concept           meaning   dev     user       some thoughts
abstraction       ?            ?          ?            (seems the most easy
one)
class               ?            ?          ?            (should be a class
definition?)
object              ?            ?          ?            (corresponds to a
visual object in the gui? no matter if it is external or abstraction?)
external           ?            ?          ?            (seems easy too)


best regards,
Pedro

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Mathieu Bouchard <matju at artengine.ca>wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
>
>  A false dichotomy is made between abstractions and externals.
>>
>
> Such a false dichotomy is also used on the front page of
> http://puredata.info/ :
>
>  « It is easy to extend Pd by writing object classes ("externals") or
>    patches ("abstractions"). »
>
> I say that even though at the implementation level, abstractions aren't
> classes, for the user, it works like a class.
>
>
>> Also there are many externals that don't include abstractions but are
>> nonetheless compatible with Pd vanilla.
>>
>
> What part of the text are you referring to, in particular ?
>
> BTW, http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/Abstractions talks about
> "external patches", but given how "external" is being overwhelmingly used
> with a totally different meaning in Pd. (are newbies supposed to have to
> guess ?)
>
>  "word or symbol" creates a false dichotomy.
>>
>
> what about the occurrence of "selector-word" in the Messages page ?
>
>  Also: it isn't made clear what is special about list messages as opposed
>> to, say, blueberry messages, which I define as starting with the word
>> blueberry followed by zero or more atoms*.
>>
>
> mmm, blueberries. :)
>
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