[PD] Pd performance at TED

[Pierre Massat]

Dear List,

I think this "technological parody" discussion is very funny.

As some of you may know, most (if not all) of the north indian classical
instruments were designed to sound like the human voice.
I'm very naive, so i 'm wondering : is a sitar a technological parody?
Stupid Indians, they get blood-filled blisters on their fingers to learn how
to play a technological parody!

Just kidding (though it's true about the desing of indian instruments).

I do believe that the output is the only important thing to consider. The
fact that Aphex Twin used a sampler (or whatever, i don't know) to record
the drum track to Flim doesn't matter at all to me. This is an amazing
piece, that very few musicians (if any) on earth could have created. The
fact that he created it on a sequencer in 97 and not on a drumkit in 1963
doesn't make any difference to me.

Pierre

2011/6/23 Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com>

> Certainly could be. :)
>
> Or on the other hand:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuuRG6-IT8
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- On *Thu, 6/23/11, Tyler Leavitt <thecryoflove at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Tyler Leavitt <thecryoflove at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "ALAN BROOKER" <alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com>, pd-list at iem.at
> Date: Thursday, June 23, 2011, 5:25 AM
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_w_Mvh9tU
>
> Is this a technological parody?
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jancsika@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Yes, it's exactly like that.  But that's the way the term was defined,
> which-- as you
> point out-- covers wide array of synthesis techniques and uses of digital
> computers.
>
> I would just conclude that it doesn't seem a particularly enlightening
> term, except for
> a specific subset of parodies that have to do with technology.  As a term
> of derision
> I think it's confusing/confused.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> --- On *Wed, 6/22/11, ALAN BROOKER <alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.brooker2010@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: ALAN BROOKER <alan.brooker2010 at gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=alan.brooker2010@gmail.com>
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
> To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <jancsika at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jancsika@yahoo.com>
> >
> Cc: pd-list at iem.at <http://mc/compose?to=pd-list@iem.at>, "Cody Loyd" <
> codyloyd at gmail.com <http://mc/compose?to=codyloyd@gmail.com>>
> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 10:44 PM
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika at yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=jancsika@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> You're right, no one ever said that.  Even me.
>
> Did you actually look at the patch?  It is a technological parody of record
> scratching.
> It perfectly fits the definition given on this list.  If you don't think
> so, then
> please tell me what you can do with that patch that's so musically
> interesting that it
> would warrant buying a modern digital computer instead of a turntable.
>
>
> Well, one might want to connect the sampler patch to another patch that
> produces a contrasting sound, they both would share the same values sent to
> the atom to change pitches ect.
>
> Don't you think to say a patch that emulates scratching sounds from audio
> samples is a technological parody of a scratching record player, is a bit
> like saying a patch that emulates the sound of the piano is a technological
> parody of a piano (they are both instruments)?. I think one purpose of audio
> software to emulate instruments ?  Regarding if it is musically interesting,
> I'm v. sure you know record scratching is(was?) used as an instrument in hip
> hop and such.
>
> If a purpose of audio software is emulation of physical instruments  then I
> don't think it should be  labeled as a technological parody.  Otherwise you
> could use the argument 'why have a computer when I can buy a physical
> instrument' every time?
>
>  Just sharing thoughts really, interesting topic.
>
>
>
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