[PD] Raspberry Pi Behringer UCA222 boot problems

Sat Jul 27 11:51:35 CEST 2013

Hi Dan,

I have done some more hunting around and on the Pd FrontPage site it says
that my Behringer soundcard has been proven to work with the Raspberry Pi
with reduced USB speed and I have found some posts that say they have it
running in full duplex. What I get is something like this when I have the
sound card plugged in on boot

[    2.469784] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using dwc_otg
[    2.571518] usb 1-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0608
[    2.571545] usb 1-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=1,
SerialNumber=0
[    2.571562] usb 1-1.3: Product: USB2.0 Hub
[    2.573135] hub 1-1.3:1.0: USB hub found
[    2.573640] hub 1-1.3:1.0: 4 ports detected
[    2.849881] usb 1-1.3.4: new full-speed USB device number 5 using dwc_otg
[    2.953034] usb 1-1.3.4: New USB device found, idVendor=08bb, idProduct=2704
[    2.953064] usb 1-1.3.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=0
[    2.953081] usb 1-1.3.4: Product: USB Audio DAC
[    2.953096] usb 1-1.3.4: Manufacturer: Burr-Brown from TI
[    2.958781] input: Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio DAC
 as /devices/platform/bcm2708_usb/usb1/1-1/1-1.3/1-1.3.4/1-1.3.4:1.2/input/input0
[    2.960263] hid-generic 0003:08BB:2704.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID
v1.00 Device [Burr-Brown from TI               USB Audio DAC   ] on
usb-bcm2708_usb-1.3.4/input2

 and it just hangs there. This is with nothing else plugged in to the PI.
Without the lowered USB speed I get so many dropouts that it is completely
unusable. I'm sorry to keep harping on about the same thing but as with all
of these things you find a little nugget that gives you hope (and another
and another). The videos that I have seen like this

http://hackaday.com/2013/01/28/raspberry-pi-becomes-a-guitar-effects-processor/

are pretty much what I'm looking for. Imperceptible/minimal dropouts and
decent FX. Can you or anyone tell me why I can't even boot the Pi with the
(previously community tested) soundcard plugged in running at USB 1 speed?
Or why if I plug it in after booting I crash the Pi?

This post

http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2013-01/100560.html

and others in the same thread are what started me on this mission so if any
of the contributors to it could tell me how they have got this up and
running I would eternally grateful

Thanks again,
John

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:

> For what it's worth, I tried force ing USB 1.1 mode on the pi with my
> UA-25 and that resulted in a hard lock as well. Disappointing at this point
> since I've worked with audio on slower embedded machines before ...
>
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, John Canning <johnnyboy7777 at hotmail.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks for getting back to me Dan
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Actually I miss-typed. The issue is with "Isochronous" usb mode:
>> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=29226 Looks like
>> things should be better for USB 2 audio devices, but still issues with USB
>> 1.1 devices (aka mine :P):
>>
>> While Isoc has improved for pretty much everyone using USB2.0 devices
>> (USB1.1 will still suffer from lost packets due to split transaction
>> breakage noted elsewhere) I'm still annoyed at my webcams "kinda working" -
>> I get 1-2 seconds of uninterrupted video and then a half-garbled frame.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sure, but that's only for certain types of USB devices. Some are working
>> and others aren't. More "professional" sound cards require
>> lower-latency/burst mode over USB which the PI firmware currently doesn't
>> allow and/or doesn't set the correct priority for. The issue AFAICT is that
>> essentially the usb host is software defined on the SOC and they haven't
>> optimized it for usb audio, or something like that.
>>
>> For instance, I can get stereo out in Pd working fine with my Edirol
>> UA-25 . If I enable an audio input, I get instant dropouts. Yeah, I guess
>> it "works", but not well enough for me.
>>
>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 6:27 PM, John Canning <johnnyboy7777 at hotmail.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> Thanks for getting back to me. I'm still very new to the Pi but have
>> found this post that seems to say that it can work. I'm confused. What do
>> you reckon?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Simply put, the RPI firmware does not work with USB audio correctly yet.
>>> See this thread:
>>> http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2013-07/103261.html
>>>
>>> I keep looking for fixes, but the way USB is handled, the only way for
>>> it to work without dropouts is to have *nothing* else plugged into the usb
>>> bus and ethernet disabled ... sucks.
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 5:41 PM, pd-list-request at iem.at wrote:
>>>
>>> *From: *John Canning <johnnyboy7777 at hotmail.co.uk>
>>>  *Subject: **[PD] Raspberry Pi Behringer UCA222 boot problems*
>>>  *Date: *July 26, 2013 5:40:49 PM EDT
>>> *To: *Pure Data <pd-list at iem.at>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I have been trying for quite a while to get my Raspberry Pi to work in
>>> full duplex with Pd. I have installed the OS on the PdPi site and updated
>>> it. I am using a Behringer UCA222 for audio. When I change the USB speed
>>> down to 1 (dwc_otg.speed=1) in /boot/cmdline.txt my Pi won't boot with the
>>> soundcard plugged in. If I unplug the soundcard the Pi will boot but as
>>> soon as I plug it in the Pi crashes. Has anyone got any suggestions about
>>> why this is happening?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>  --------
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika
>>> danomatika.com
>>> robotcowboy.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> @danomatika
>> danomatika.com
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>> @danomatika
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