[PD] [PD-announce] Chocolate et Coffee
Jonathan Wilkes
jancsika at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 2 20:35:04 CET 2014
On 01/02/2014 08:09 AM, Pierre Guillot wrote:
> For Chocolate : I made this library because I wanted to have other
> behaviors than those available in Vanilla or Extented, I think that
> design and ergonomics are really important and can change your
> approach (I'm not a specialist, but that seems obvious). Nevertheless,
> I understand that people prefer to use the native objects, my
> propositions are totally subjective and I think that a big part come
> from my experience with Max. Another reason of this work is that I
> have another project and I need some specific methods in the objects.
> I hope that you'll find this library more interesting when I'll be
> able to present this work.
>
> For Coffee : I work with Pd Vanilla 0.45 so I don't really use
> extented and it was really fast and easy to code them so I did it...
> Except "prepend", I don't know where are this objects in Extented
> (I'll be glad to know it) and if we put the libraries in the extented
> distribution, we can remove my objects (it doesn't matter).
>
> The names came from a stupid joke with a friend where Vanilla became
> Chocolate and Extented became Enhanced, nothing is really serious
> (don't worry, I do not claim to replace Vanilla or Extended). When I
> realized that perhaps others than me could be interested to use the
> library, I wanted to change the name to avoid mistake but it's really
> boring to do.
>
>
>
> 2014/1/2 IOhannes m zmölnig <zmoelnig at iem.at <mailto:zmoelnig at iem.at>>
>
> On 2013-12-31 11:46, Pierre Guillot wrote:
> > Quickly : Chocolate is a set of GUIs sometimes already available
> in PD
> > Vanilla, PD extented or Max with new features (like presets
> edition) that I
> > hope, you'll enjoy.
>
>
> as said before: they are great.
>
> > And it will be a part of a more complex project for the
> > writting of events. Coffee is a set of objects to facilitate the
> patch
> > creation.
>
> but i'm not so sure about these: i think each and every of these
> objects
> already exists in another library (often in the context of a more
> complete set of similar objects), so i don't fully see the point
> of them.
>
> >
> > Download : https://github.com/pierreguillot/PdEnhanced/releases
>
> and i would suggest to use another name instead of "PdEnhanced".
> the name suggests that it is a flavour (and the use of "chocolate" and
> "coffee" support this) of Pd itself (like Pd-extended or
> Pd-l2ork) but
> your set of libraries really is just another set of libraries... there
> about 100 libraries in the puredata SVN repository at sourceforge.
> i guess it would be quite confusing if all of these libraries would be
> called "PdEnhanced".
>
Realize that you're responding to someone who gave his library the
extraordinarily clear and descriptive name of "zexy" :)
-Jonathan
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