[GEM-dev] how close are we...

[guenter geiger]

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
> >>abs
> >>m_control?
> >>multiselect?
> >>reson?
> >>strcat?
> >
> >
> > I think they should go away ...
> should go away from GEM ?
>
> probably we should really remove all the markEX-objects that are not
> referred too by the help/example-patches (and as time permits, rewrite
> them, so that they don't need markEX)

yes, thats what I meant. They are not gem specific, therefore they do not
really fit. Don't know how many people use them. I think some people
complained that they have to load Gem in order to use these externals.
Putting them in CVS together with the externals we could avoid this.

> > Yep. What about producing a template for  the help-* patches (we have
> > to rename them for pd-0.37 too, right ?)
> i don't fully understand this.

Well, we design a help-template, more or less defining how help patches
should look like, and volunteers can help us documenting the single
objects using that template. (See attachment for a proposal describing
circle)

>   and ask gem users to help
> > with the documentation effort.
> yes, this would probably result in better help-patches (because they
> might show real needs)
>
> > I think it would be nice if the help patches have a minimal functionality
> > too, so the user can see the effect directly.
>
> so, without a [gemwin] but with a [gemhead] ?

I would say with gemwin too. Doesn't hurt, does it ?

Guenter


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#N canvas 112 20 659 322 10;
#X obj 543 149 circle;
#X msg 475 45 draw line;
#X msg 475 76 draw fill;
#X msg 475 108 draw point;
#X obj 543 44 gemhead;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 gemwin 0;
#X obj 132 136 gemwin;
#X obj 67 89 outlet;
#X obj 67 10 inlet;
#X obj 67 41 route create;
#X msg 67 70 set destroy;
#X msg 142 68 set create;
#X msg 132 112 create \, 1;
#X msg 198 112 destroy;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 0 6 0;
#X connect 3 1 5 0;
#X connect 3 1 7 0;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
#X connect 6 0 0 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 0;
#X restore 480 272 pd gemwin;
#X msg 480 253 create;
#X floatatom 574 104 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X text 574 88 size;
#X text 33 14 Synopsis: [circle];
#X text 49 92 Class: geometric object;
#X text 475 19 Example:;
#X text 478 232 Create window:;
#X text 39 40 Inlet 1: message: draw [line|fill|point];
#X text 38 67 Inlet 2: float: size;
#X text 14 119 Description: Renders a circle.;
#X text 93 135 The circle object renders a circle flat disc at the
current position with current color. The look of the circle can be
changed with the draw message \, its size can be changed via the second
inlet.;
#X connect 1 0 0 0;
#X connect 2 0 0 0;
#X connect 3 0 0 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 5 0 6 0;
#X connect 6 0 5 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 1;