[PD-dev] Re: PD-cvs Digest, Vol 10, Issue 15

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

On Dec 16, 2005, at 4:28 AM, Tim Blechmann wrote:

>>> Staying in sync sounds good to me.  But I think that since
>>> portaudio/portmidi are not stable APIs and still alpha/beta code, we
>>> should maintain a copy in CVS.
>
> what? the portaudio api's 1 and 2 are perfectly defined, there is
> absolute no need to keep a copy ...

That is far from the only reason to keep a copy in

>> portaudio/midi is fairly stable and not under particularly active
>> development now that it supports everything people actually use like
>> coreaudio alsa and mme/ds/asio - i wouldnt classify it under
>> alpha/beta status even v19.. anyways it's a seperate project and
>> should not be in the pure-data CVS, it has its own..
>
> don't agree either ... portaudio is still under development ...
> portaudio v19 isn't fully implemented, yet ... but if you classify pd
> to be late alpha, then portaudio 19 is late beta ...

Show me a release.  A CVS snapshot is not a release.  The portaudio  
people apparently think its not beta yet since there is no release.   
I'll take their word for it.

> In any case ... if we keep the portaudio/midi sources in the cvs, i'd
> propose to add the alsa and the jack sources, too.
> of course the next step would be to add the asio-sdk, which would
> result in some legal problems, but you can't build pd with
> portaudio/asio on windoze without this sdk...

It would be good to have ASIO in there, but yes, the license does not  
allow it.  As for Jack and ALSA, there are releases.  ALSA is past 1.0,  
so its silly to compare it.
Plus, I think that the Debian, RedHat, Fink, etc. etc. packages work  
much better than keeping the source in CVS.  You cannot get portaudio  
19 packages from Debian, RedHat or Fink (though perhaps from other  
sources).


.hc

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