[PD-dev] Re: Packaging system (WAS Re: [PD] Pd standalone instruments ... )

[Alexandre Quessy]

On 8/7/06, hans at eds.org <hans at eds.org> wrote:
>
> I think this could be a good idea, but it will be quite a bit of
> work.  As long as we share a single build system, I think it will
> work.  The current one is already pretty modular, but it could use
> more work, like a proper ./configure setup.
>

Yes. You are right : I forgot that it is better to compile everything
together. I think I need a crash course on the pd-extended build
system... I will study a bit, soon. :-)


> I am currently in the process of helping Nando @ CCRMA to base his
> PlanetCCRMA Pd packages off of the extended build system, and its
> mostly working quite well.  But the process is highlighting some
> areas that need work.

Yeah. Taking shores is a good way to learn too. Maybe a ticket system,
or a much used wiki, would be great. I am thinking about
http://trac.edgewall.org/ and such.


>
> .hc
>
> On Aug 7, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Alexandre Quessy wrote:
>
> > By the way, the PEAR packaging system is very good for handling
> > versions and dependencies of several files. It works on several OS
> > (mac/win/*nix) and there is a GUI to make the packages.
> >
> > I tought about using that for creating PD packages (externals and
> > abstractions), but then, we thought that PEAR needs PHP, which is not
> > installed by default on Win32 nor on most Linux distros. We could
> > write our own packaing system. It must be about 1000 lines of code. It
> > could be in Python. I think that would help a lot the community to get
> > organized. I"d be volunteer to work (in a team) on it if I was sure
> > the community (and Miller) would accept it.
> >
> > Also, I know there exist such package managers that could be used for
> > that. Maybe not APT : there are some that are more portable. Marc
> > Lavallée told about about one one day, but I forgot which.
> >
> > This thread should be switched to the pd-dev list now...
> >
> > aalex
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/7/06, Alexandre Quessy <listes at sourcelibre.com> wrote:
> >> On 7/31/06, matthew jones <mj at isvr.soton.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> > > A double-clickable jar-style format would be good to do so
> >> that you can
> >> > > include more than one file.
> >> >
> >> > I second that!  Distribution of patches which include other
> >> patches,
> >> > specific abstractions and externals would be peasy and clean
> >> with some kind
> >> > of packaged format like that.  Then even if these abstractions
> >> etc were
> >> > already installed on the user's machine the patch would look for
> >> anything
> >> > required within this packaged file first... no longer any
> >> [scale] confusions
> >> > or namespace issues!  Oh, but then externals are platform
> >> dependent, so....
> >> > hmm patches become dependent too.  Right... maybe not the
> >> optimal solution
> >> > then?
> >>
> >>
> >> Very good idea !!
> >> It could be a ZIP file with a XML file, patches and objects in it.
> >> The
> >> XML file describes the role of each file in the bundles. Therefore,
> >> one could wrap externals for, let say, Windose, Mack and Linux, and
> >> write the ".pdrc" in the xml file. If the externals are missing for
> >> the current OS, well, it doesn't work and that's it ! An example of
> >> such a XML file in a TAR.GZ package is the package system of PEAR,
> >> the
> >> PHP classes repository. See
> >> http://www.php-editors.com/pear_manual/developers.packagedef.html
> >>
> >> Maybe that's overkill though, but it would kind of compete with
> >> Max's VSTs. :-P
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Matt
> >> >
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