[PD-dev] UTF-8 for pd-devel (again)

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

Awesome!  If its big and complicated, I say post it to the list first,  
if not too bad, then just commit.

.hc

On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Bryan Jurish wrote:

> moin Hans, moin list,
>
> I think perhaps I never actually did post the cleaned-up patch  
> anywhere
> (bad programmer, no biscuit);  I guess I'll check out
> branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43 and try patching my changes in; then I  
> can
> either commit or just post the (updated) patch.  Hopefully no major
> additional changes will be required, so it ought to go pretty fast.
>
> marmosets,
> 	Bryan
>
> On 2010-01-17 22:57:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>  
> appears to
> have written:
>>
>> Hey Bryan,
>>
>> I'd like to try to get your UTF-8 code into pd-gui-rewrite.  You  
>> mention
>> in this posting back in May that you had the whole thing working.  I
>> couldn't find the diff/patch for this.  Is it posted anywhere?  Do  
>> you
>> want to try to check it in yourself directly to the pd-gui-rewrite/ 
>> 0.43
>> branch?
>>
>> .hc
>>
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:16 PM, Bryan Jurish wrote:
>>
>>> morning all,
>>>
>>> Of course I never really like to see my code wither away in the bit
>>> bucket, but I personally don't have any pressing need for UTF-8  
>>> symbols,
>>> comments, etc. in Pd -- I'm a native English speaker, after all ;-)
>>>
>>> Also, my changes are by no means the only way to do it (or even  
>>> the best
>>> way); we could gain a little speed by slapping on some more buffers
>>> (mostly and possibly only in rtext_senditup()), but since this  
>>> seems to
>>> effect only GUI/editing stuff, I think we can live with a smidgeon  
>>> of
>>> additional cpu time ... after all, it's all O(n) anyways.
>>>
>>> Really I just wanted to see how easy (or difficult) it would be to  
>>> get
>>> Pd to use UTF-8 as its internal encoding... turned out to be  
>>> harder than
>>> I had thought, but (ever so slightly) easier than I had feared :-/
>>>
>>> marmosets,
>>>    Bryan
>>>
>>> On 2009-03-20 18:39:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans at eds.org>  
>>> appears to
>>> have written:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what the best approach is to getting it included.  I  
>>>> also think
>>>> its a very valuable contribution.  I think we need to first get the
>>>> Tcl/Tk only changes done, since that was the mandate of the pd- 
>>>> devel
>>>> 0.41 effort.  Then once Miller has accepted those changes, then  
>>>> we can
>>>> start with the C modifications there.  So how to proceed next, I  
>>>> think
>>>> is based on how eager you are, Bryan, to getting this in a regular
>>>> build.
>>>>
>>>> One option is making a pd-devel-utf8 branch, another is posting  
>>>> these
>>>> patches to the patch tracker and waiting for Miller to make his  
>>>> next
>>>> update with the Pd-devel Tcl-Tk code.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe we can get Miller to chime in on this topic.
>>>>
>>>> .hc
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 12:00 AM, dmotd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hey bryan,
>>>>>
>>>>> just a quick note of a appreciation for getting this one out.. i  
>>>>> hope
>>>>> it gets
>>>>> picked up in millers build soon.. a very useful and necessary
>>>>> modification.
>>>>>
>>>>> well done!
>>>>>
>>>>> dmotd
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday 12 March 2009 08:07:50 Bryan Jurish wrote:
>>>>>> moin folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe I've finally got pd-devel 0.41-4 using UTF-8 across the
>>>>>> board.
>>>>>> So far, I've tested message boxes & comments (g_rtext), as well  
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> symbol atoms, and all seems good.  I think we can still expect
>>>>>> goofiness
>>>>>> if someone names an abstraction using a multibyte character  
>>>>>> when the
>>>>>> filesystem isn't UTF-8 encoded (raw 8-bit works for me here too),
>>>>>> but I
>>>>>> really don't want to open that particular can of worms.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I guess I have 2 questions:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (1) what should I call the generic UTF-8 source files? (see my  
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> post)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (2) shall I commit these changes to pd-devel/0.41-4, or somewhere
>>>>>> else,
>>>>>> or just post a diff (ca. 33k, ought to be easier to read now;  
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> tried
>>>>>> to follow the indentation conventions of the source files I  
>>>>>> modified)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> marmosets,
>>>>>>   Bryan
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bryan Jurish                           "There is *always* one more  
>>> bug."
>>> jurish at ling.uni-potsdam.de      -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic  
>>> Entomology
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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