[PD-dev] initbang and friends WAS: run-up to release 0.43

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

While I can't really comment on the implementation since i haven't
reviewed it in depth, I can say that I am a fan of having the interface
be a series of *bang objects over having a [loadbang] with arguments.  I
think its nice, simple, and clear.  Then we also can have things like
[propertybang] for implementing Properties panels in abstractions.

Also, I've used [initbang] some in Pd-extended and so far it works well.
[closebang] is tricky because the patch is being deleted when its
triggered.

.hc

On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:44 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Hi Jonathan -
> 
> I don't feel confortable with the design but don't understand the rationale
> for them well enough to know how to evaluate them.  (And I think initbang
> and closebang are totally different animals...)
> 
> I want to redesign loadbang to take arguments, one of which could indicate
> at what "phase" of loading or closing the message should come out -- but this
> is a bigger design problem than I'm able to attack right now.  I worry, though,
> that enshrining the proposed initbang/closebang will make thiings uglier and
> more complicated than necessary.
> 
> cheers
> Miller
> > 
> > Miller- would you mind commenting on the initbang/closebang patch 
> > on Sourceforge, as to why it's still not included in your Pd?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jonathan
> > 
> > > I'm
> > > curious what features you have in mind, and looking forward
> > > to having
> > > you in NYC.  Perhaps we should have a mini PdCon here
> > > in the Fall :)
> > > 
> > > .hc
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 17:06 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I have only 2 weeks left in the vicinity of my usual
> > > collection of testing
> > > > machines (will be in New York Sept 1 - Jan. 1!) and so
> > > should probably
> > > > try to get 0.43 finalized.  I have several bugs
> > > to work on but I think the
> > > > whole thing is ready to put out compiled "test
> > > versions" for people to
> > > > exercise.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll try not to add new "features" but just fix bugs
> > > for the next 2 weeks --
> > > > I'll have all fall for the next bunch of features
> > > (including, perhaps, the
> > > > ones I've been trying to find time to work on).
> > > > 
> > > > I'll do my usual compiling and spot testing, hopefully
> > > putting out the
> > > > test versions within the next day.
> > > > 
> > > > cheers
> > > > Miller
> > > > 
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