[PD-dev] atoms not same height as objects?

[Miller Puckette]

Inlets&outlets are 2 pixels on linux and windows.  It's a Tcl/Tk rendering
inconsistency that makes inlets (if I remember correctly) appear as 3-pix-high
rectangles with empty centers.  Extended (which was primarily developed on a
Mac) took this as the 'preferred' look and altered outlets to look like inlets
(unlike the original design).

Which is better is a matter of judgement - but if inlets/outlets are grown
to 3 pixel, then boxes should get another 2 pix of height.  I'd suggest making
this a "preference", perhaps selectable in the "font size" window.

cheers
Miller

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 03:23:49PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> It's on the list. I have the sizing from extended mostly working which fixes the object & atom sizing issues we're seeing with 0.48.
> 
> > On Sep 18, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Kevin Haywood <khaywood at ucsd.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > If you’re considering cleaning up things of this nature, then I’d add that outlets currently only extend two pixels into objects, messages, etc., whereas inlets extend 3 (and are therefore much easier to see).  This is the case on macOS, at least.
> > 
> > If this was by design, then please ignore : )
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 18, 2017, at 2:35 AM, Dan Wilcox <danomatika at gmail.com <mailto:danomatika at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> So it would be fine to use the same vert sizing as object boxes? I have that now in some testing and it looks good, especially for symbols. Maybe I'm too picky with the details :)
> >> 
> >>> On Sep 18, 2017, at 12:12 AM, Miller Puckette <msp at ucsd.edu <mailto:msp at ucsd.edu>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I think there's only a very stupid, short-sighted reason: since numbers
> >>> never have descenders, it wasn't necessary to add a pixel of whitespace
> >>> underneath the rendered string.  I was intent on reducing the size of
> >>> everything to its absolute minimum.
> >>> 
> >>> I was forgetting about (or maybe not anticipating) "symbol" boxes - it's
> >>> easy to make symbol box text collide with the box's outlet.  And "|"
> >>> characters can hit the bottom edge of the box even away from the outlet.
> >>> 
> >>> cheers
> >>> Miller
> >>> 
> >>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 11:10:50PM +0200, Dan Wilcox wrote:
> >>>> Is there a reason why atoms and slightly shorter in height than object boxes, at least on macOS?
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'm not asking for the technical reason, as I know in the code why this is, but more the conceptual reason, or is it a bug?
> >>>> 
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