[PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals, preliminary support)

Alexandre Torres Porres porres at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 03:34:20 CET 2023 

damn, snake~/unsnake~ was a cool name :/ I guess I was the only fan though

Em seg., 23 de jan. de 2023 às 22:51, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
pd-dev at lists.iem.at> escreveu:

> So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe "join~/split~", and
> a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out specifically.  Then
> I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an oscillator bank
> -
> assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to the
> frequency input.  (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do in
> other
> situations too).
>
> still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an
> anonymous
> abstraction that you just edit into being live...
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 01:02:43AM +0100, Fede Camara Halac wrote:
> > <html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
> charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi devs,<div><br></div><div>I can
> edge 2 cents towards, albeit boringly, join~ and split~ (or
> unjoin~)</div><div><br></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
> color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ps. I am very excited about multichannel signals
> coming into pd! Thanks for making that happen! </span></div><div><span
> style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0,
> 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color:
> rgb(0, 0, 0);">Best!</span></div><div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
> 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></span></div><div><font color="#000000"><span
> style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Fede</span></font></div><div><font
> color="#000000"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
> 0);"><br></span></font><div dir="ltr"><div>—</div>Dr. Federico Cámara
> Halac<div>Composer / Programmer / Sound Artist<br><div><a href="
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fdch.ar__;!!Mih3wA!HLNtThNWUuXw9RpBcicQ3Mx1Spv0rOty-jEft1oMTi8ARl5KrwNXjoEl_XxoKTMAegcth1VNkKcE0uU$
> ">https://fdch.ar</a></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote
> type="cite">On 24. Jan 2023, at 00:14, Alexandre Torres Porres &
> lt;porres at gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote
> type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">There was a snake in the
> Bible </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div
> dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"
> class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 at 20:04 Dan Wilcox <<a
> href="mailto:danomatika at gmail.com">danomatika at gmail.com</a>>
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
> 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div
> style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I was trying to
> think of a further biblical [moses] analogy, but I guess there is probably
> a [moses~] already.<div><br></div><div>Maybe [cross~] / [uncross~] ala
> Ghostbusters... "don't cross the streams"<br><div><br><blockquote
> type="cite"><div>On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:05 PM, <a href="mailto:
> pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at" target="_blank">pd-dev-request at lists.iem.at</a>
> wrote:</div><br><div><span
> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Message:
> 2</span><br
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> Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:53:12 -0300</span><br
> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span
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> Alexandre Torres Porres <</span><a href="mailto:porres at gmail.com"
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> target="_blank">porres at gmail.com</a><span
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> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span
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> Miller Puckette <</span><a href="mailto:msp at ucsd.edu"
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> target="_blank">msp at ucsd.edu</a><span
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> Roman Haefeli <</span><a href="mailto:reduzent at gmail.com"
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> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular"> </span></span><a href="mailto:
> pd-dev at lists.iem.at"
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> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">Subject:
> Re: [PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals,</span><br
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>  </span><span
> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline!important">preliminary
> support)</span><br
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> </span><span
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> find snake~ and unsafe~ a bit weird but amusing, I kinda like idea
> of</span><br
> style="font-family:Menlo-Regular;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span
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> that object name and read it in a
> patch</span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
> > <div
> style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;color:rgb(0,0,0)">--------</div><div
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> Wilcox</div><div
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