[PD-dev] pack~/unpack~ (was Re: multichannel signals, preliminary support)

[William Brent]

I'm not sure if this dialog is anywhere near settled (I got lost in the
tangle of medusa-like message threads), but here's a +1 for [snake~].

I like the [object~ method] convention and the unique object name fits well
in Pd vernacular to my ears. It seems like there's room to tack on lots of
helpful methods...[snake~ info] could give us the specs of a given
connection.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:58 AM Christof Ressi <info at christofressi.com>
wrote:

> In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object
> family
>
> Me too! It is now clear that these objects are all releated.
>
> "snake~ in", "snake~ out"
>
> Actually, I would prefer [snake~ pack] and [snake~ unpack] because for me
> the meaning of "in" and "out" is ambigious. "pack" and "unpack", on the
> other hand, are pretty obvious.
>
> Alternatively, we might just as well use [mc~ pack], [mc~ unpack], [mc~
> split], etc. to save some keystrokes :-)
>
> Christof
> On 25.01.2023 11:48, Fede Cámara Halac wrote:
>
> Yes, join/split would be translatable, whereas translating "snake" can be
> slippery.
> I do think it is amusing, btw, and slides nicely next to sigmund~ and
> moses.
>
> In any case, I am really liking now that "snake~" feels like an object
> family, that refers to the kind of signal,
> and you can say things like "snake~ in", "snake~ out", or even "snake~
> split", "snake~ join" ,
> or further, "snake~ rotate/flip", "snake~ encode/decode"
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:49 AM Miller Puckette via Pd-dev <
> pd-dev at lists.iem.at> wrote:
>
>> OK... now I'm hesitating between "snake~ in", "snake~ out" and "snake~
>> tap"
>> or "join~", "split~", and "tap~"...
>>
>> Former is more colorful (and crowds the namespace less).  Latter might be
>> easier for non-native English speakers to deal with?
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 01:36:24AM +0100, Christof Ressi wrote:
>> > > Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
>> > Unfortunately, these are also zexy objects ;-)
>> >
>> > On 24.01.2023 11:52, Max wrote:
>> > > Isn't "mux~/demux~" closest to what's actually happening?
>> > > when "joining" two signals, I wouldn't expect them to be running in
>> > > parallel but being mixed together.
>> > >
>> > > m.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 24.01.23 02:50, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
>> > > > So merging (hmm) some ideas from Fede and Dan, maybe
>> "join~/split~", and
>> > > > a new tap~ object that allows you to pick channels out
>> > > > specifically.  Then
>> > > > I think for example "clone osc~" might do OK for making an
>> > > > oscillator bank -
>> > > > assuming it turns out to be practical to send message-time lists to
>> the
>> > > > frequency input.  (Maybe that's someting clone should know how to do
>> > > > in other
>> > > > situations too).
>> > > >
>> > > > still thinking about, for instance, "clone -" to make clones of an
>> > > > anonymous
>> > > > abstraction that you just edit into being live...
>> > > >
>> > > > cheers
>> > > > Miller
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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