report for Gem4Mac, check failed:zgetfn(idle): corrupt object (on Max window) and then MaxFat 3.6.2 -quit application, error type 2. When 1st) Opening any patch (i.e. gem1.redSquare) 2nd) Creating any GEM-window (+ render it), then closing the patch before closing the GEM-window. Ricardo School of Music QUB