[PD] Pop-up window

[Krzysztof Czaja]

hi,

if we are talking about appearance attributes or some auxiliary
parameters (like slider ranges), then there is no disagreement.

But I have some doubts about setting/changing object's behaviour
from within properties dialog.

1. If the changes are immediately reflected in an object box text,
then there is nothing radical in it, in fact, there is little
difference between such a generic dialog and generic `info' message
printing object's usage info to the terminal window (my proposal
from some time ago).

2. If, on the other hand, the argument values I see in an object box
are different from those that are in effect because of changing them
in some dialog window (and those that I will see after reloading of
the patch), then it is going to be a mess I am likely to be completely
lost in.  Having a floating `inspector' window instead of pop-up
properties dialogs would help a little, but not much.

3. There is a possible change of focus.  The purity in Pd promotes
`distributed' way of doing things.  Simple objects usually require
a simple and small set of arguments.  I suspect, that the main
reason why we need this `argument template dialog', is that we need
to pack (too?) many features into one external.

But experiences vary, the 1-3 are only my doubts, I have no strong
and clear opinion on that matter.

Krzysztof

guenter geiger wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Krzysztof Czaja wrote:
> 
> > hi,
> >
> > this would make quite a radical change in how patches look, and
> > in the way patches are designed, so I think we ought to take into
> > account a few other concerns apart from plain short-term user
> > friendliness.  Quick and easy patching is nice, but maintaining
> > large codebase of complex musical pieces is quite a different
> > story.  But well, I am not shure, if it is really a proper thing
> > for me to make such comments before Miller speaks...
> 
> I don't understand fully why it should  change anything except of just
> having an additional way to input/change  arguments for pd objects ?
...