[PD] networked multi-channel PD cluster

[Hans-Christoph Steiner]

I've played with it on OS X.  I was getting sound, controlling it with 
netsend/netreceive.  And it worked fine.  But it was hardly a definitive 
test.

.hc

Josh Steiner wrote:

>Have you actually experimented with PD on OS-X yet?  I'm not sure how
>stable it is right now, I think its only a test build.  Can anyone share
>their exeperiences?
>
>-Josh
>
>(and yes, Hans is my brother)
>
>On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>
>>I am planning on using netsend/netreceive since they seem to do what I 
>>need them to and they are already part of PD.  OSC would be best in the 
>>long run, but it seems like its a bit beta still.  I plan on using 
>>multiple computers because I want to space the speakers every 75 meters 
>>or so along the 500 m tunnel.  Running audio cables 500 m isn't really 
>>feasible, but ethernet can do 100m cable lengths.  I'll have a hub or 
>>router every 100m.  (FYI: PD does support multiple audio outs).
>>
>>Also, currently I am not too concerned with latency since its probably 
>>going to be a prerecorded bit played back, rather than a live 
>>performace.  That can come later.  I might choose OS X because I am 
>>getting a bunch of Macs for this project that I might want to use for 
>>other things in the future.  Linux is an option too.  I am not concerned 
>>with the OS really since PD works for me on both platforms.
>>
>>Has anyone seen anything like this implemented before?  I am mainly 
>>looking for examples of spacialization in such a setup, plus how to 
>>control it all once its setup.
>>
>>.hc
>>
>>David Sabine wrote:
>>
>>>(Someone please tell me if this is post all wrong and terribly
>>>uninformed...I'm new to this list.)
>>>
>>>Hans-Christoph,
>>>
>>>In terms of networking the many computers together and getting all your PD
>>>patches to communicate, I think you could use Open Sound Control, or perhaps
>>>the netsend and netreceive objects (native PD objects).
>>>
>>>I found an OSC (open sound control) object and reference at
>>>http://barely.a.live.fm/pd/OSC/
>>>
>>>(Don the speed of your computer and the intensity of your installation, you
>>>could consider running all the audio outputs from a single computer -- with
>>>a multi-output soundcard. For example I've seen Digidesign hardware or
>>>Sonorus hardware with 8 analog outputs.  HOWEVER, I don't know whether PD
>>>supports more than 2 audio outs yet ??(can somebody else answer this?)-- but
>>>I know SuperCollider and MAX for the Macintosh do.)
>>>
>>>Dave Sabine
>>>dave at davesabine.com
>>>http://www.davesabine.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at eds.org>
>>>To: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:16 AM
>>>Subject: [PD] networked multi-channel PD cluster
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am working on a sound installation in an old train tunnel and I am
>>>>using PD to control everything.  But since I am a PD neophyte, I want to
>>>>ask the list for direction.  Basically, my plan is to use about 8
>>>>computers spaced down the length of the tunnel, each with two speakers.
>>>>They will be networked together and running either OS X or linux.
>>>>
>>>>Here is how I envision it:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>(L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)      [speakers]
>>>>\  /      \  /      \  /      \  /       \  /
>>>>master     slave     slave     slave     slave
>>>> |---------| |-------| |-------| |-------| |---...  [ethernet]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All of the computers will share a pool of samples via the network.  I
>>>>would like to control all of the PDs from the master computer.
>>>>
>>>>For the first aspect of the installation, I would like to be able to
>>>>trigger any sample on any/all computers and even move samples down the
>>>>tunnel.  The second aspect, I would like to be able to control granular
>>>>synthesis on these computers.
>>>>
>>>>Does anybody know anyone who has done something like this before?  With
>>>>PD?  Any advice you want to offer to get me going in the right direction
>>>>would be grreatly appreciated.  I am just starting with PD, but am
>>>>familiar with most of the concepts since I have a background in Csound
>>>>and programming.
>>>>
>>>>.hc
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>"Man has survived hitherto because he was to ignorant to know how to
>>>>
>>>realize
>>>
>>>>his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them or
>>>>perish."
>>>>
>>>>-William Carlos Williams
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Hans-Christoph Steiner            http://works.steinertours.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>-- 
>>
>>"Man has survived hitherto because he was to ignorant to know how to realize
>>his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them or
>>perish."
>>
>>	-William Carlos Williams
>>
>>
>>
>>    Hans-Christoph Steiner            http://works.steinertours.com
>>
>>
>>
>
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