[PD] networked multi-channel PD cluster

[Josh Steiner]

Have you actually experimented with PD on OS-X yet?  I'm not sure how
stable it is right now, I think its only a test build.  Can anyone share
their exeperiences?

-Josh

(and yes, Hans is my brother)

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

> 
> I am planning on using netsend/netreceive since they seem to do what I 
> need them to and they are already part of PD.  OSC would be best in the 
> long run, but it seems like its a bit beta still.  I plan on using 
> multiple computers because I want to space the speakers every 75 meters 
> or so along the 500 m tunnel.  Running audio cables 500 m isn't really 
> feasible, but ethernet can do 100m cable lengths.  I'll have a hub or 
> router every 100m.  (FYI: PD does support multiple audio outs).
> 
> Also, currently I am not too concerned with latency since its probably 
> going to be a prerecorded bit played back, rather than a live 
> performace.  That can come later.  I might choose OS X because I am 
> getting a bunch of Macs for this project that I might want to use for 
> other things in the future.  Linux is an option too.  I am not concerned 
> with the OS really since PD works for me on both platforms.
> 
> Has anyone seen anything like this implemented before?  I am mainly 
> looking for examples of spacialization in such a setup, plus how to 
> control it all once its setup.
> 
> .hc
> 
> David Sabine wrote:
> 
> >(Someone please tell me if this is post all wrong and terribly
> >uninformed...I'm new to this list.)
> >
> >Hans-Christoph,
> >
> >In terms of networking the many computers together and getting all your PD
> >patches to communicate, I think you could use Open Sound Control, or perhaps
> >the netsend and netreceive objects (native PD objects).
> >
> >I found an OSC (open sound control) object and reference at
> >http://barely.a.live.fm/pd/OSC/
> >
> >(Don the speed of your computer and the intensity of your installation, you
> >could consider running all the audio outputs from a single computer -- with
> >a multi-output soundcard. For example I've seen Digidesign hardware or
> >Sonorus hardware with 8 analog outputs.  HOWEVER, I don't know whether PD
> >supports more than 2 audio outs yet ??(can somebody else answer this?)-- but
> >I know SuperCollider and MAX for the Macintosh do.)
> >
> >Dave Sabine
> >dave at davesabine.com
> >http://www.davesabine.com/
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hans-Christoph Steiner" <hans at eds.org>
> >To: <pd-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 9:16 AM
> >Subject: [PD] networked multi-channel PD cluster
> >
> >
> >>I am working on a sound installation in an old train tunnel and I am
> >>using PD to control everything.  But since I am a PD neophyte, I want to
> >>ask the list for direction.  Basically, my plan is to use about 8
> >>computers spaced down the length of the tunnel, each with two speakers.
> >> They will be networked together and running either OS X or linux.
> >>
> >>Here is how I envision it:
> >>
> >>
> >>(L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)   (L) (R)      [speakers]
> >> \  /      \  /      \  /      \  /       \  /
> >>master     slave     slave     slave     slave
> >>  |---------| |-------| |-------| |-------| |---...  [ethernet]
> >>
> >>
> >>All of the computers will share a pool of samples via the network.  I
> >>would like to control all of the PDs from the master computer.
> >>
> >>For the first aspect of the installation, I would like to be able to
> >>trigger any sample on any/all computers and even move samples down the
> >>tunnel.  The second aspect, I would like to be able to control granular
> >>synthesis on these computers.
> >>
> >>Does anybody know anyone who has done something like this before?  With
> >>PD?  Any advice you want to offer to get me going in the right direction
> >>would be grreatly appreciated.  I am just starting with PD, but am
> >>familiar with most of the concepts since I have a background in Csound
> >>and programming.
> >>
> >>.hc
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>"Man has survived hitherto because he was to ignorant to know how to
> >>
> >realize
> >
> >>his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them or
> >>perish."
> >>
> >>-William Carlos Williams
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    Hans-Christoph Steiner            http://works.steinertours.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> 
> "Man has survived hitherto because he was to ignorant to know how to realize
> his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them or
> perish."
> 
> 	-William Carlos Williams
> 
> 
> 
>     Hans-Christoph Steiner            http://works.steinertours.com
> 
> 
> 

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