[PD] Graph on parent layouts

[Frank Barknecht]

Hi,

I recently build some graph-on-parent (abbr. as "GOP" from now on)
stuff (in "agriff") and stumbled across some difficulties. A common
problem with GOP for me has been the layout, in which the GUIs appear
on the parent. 

I adjusted it this way, that I found out by trial and error: I put a
freshly done GOP patch into another patch, which looks nasty, because
all GUIs are crammed together and unsuable.  Then in the parent, I
adjust the graph size via the properties of the GOP patch. After that
I open the GOP patch and save it again. From now on, I can always
create this GOP again and it looks just like intended. 

Now, this seems a bit tedious to me so I'd like to ask, if someone
nows a better and shorter way of getting the size and layout of a GOP
patch right. 

Also GOPs in subpatches like [pd hidden], not in real abstractions,
seem to change their layout sometimes. I can't verify yet, when
exactly this happens, but it happened to me.

Oh, and I found out something else: Don't put a vu meter into a GOP,
because it eats your CPU. Stick with 'silent' objects.

Best regards,
-- 
 Frank Barknecht                               _ ______footils.org__