[PD] teaching PD to newbies [WAS: Re: [GEM] GEM users request ]

[marius schebella]

hi,
learning to build pd-patches and learning about signal-processing - speaking
for musicians - goes hand in hand...
i think a tutorial tells much about dsp-tchniques and vice versa (to learn
about signal processing, pd is a good way to explain and draw processes)

but on the other hand, i find it a good idea to offer a pack of patches,
which can be used without understanding any programming, so that musicians
can play them in performances.

marius.

----- Original Message -----
From: "derek holzer" <derek at x-i.net>
To: "chris clepper" <cclepper at artic.edu>
Cc: <PD-list at iem.kug.ac.at>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 3:43 PM
Subject: [PD] teaching PD to newbies [WAS: Re: [GEM] GEM users request ]


> chris,
>
> after this big workshop in Amsterdam a few weeks back, i noticed that
> one of the things that is still really under development in the PD/GEM
> world is a way of teaching it coherently to non-programmers. starting
> with the message patches in the documentation and telling everybody
> about triggers, bangs, floats and dollar signs works if they can think
> in terms of abstract symbols already, but doesn't work at all if they
> are coming from the other side of it... i.e. they want to know about
> signal processing, making big noises and pretty pictures. an approach
> which goes backwards from said pretty pictures and big noises could
> teach them the very powerful message-handling side of PD "retroactively"
> so-to-speak. sneak in the data-stuff without them even realizing it,
> instead of slamming them up against all these abstract numbers and
> symbols first thing.
>
> so your application-based tutorial is a great idea! IOhannes zmoelnig is
> also working on such a tutorial. i saw the beginnings of this at our
> workshop, and it looked good. perhaps you should join forces?
>
> please keep me up to date on this, as i am sure i will find it very
> useful in my own educational excursions.
>
> cheers,
> d.
>
> chris clepper wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > Over the past two weeks I have talked with a few people about GEM and
> > most people found that the GEM distro lacked any patches that really
> > showed off GEM's capabilities.  So rather than write up some lame demo
> > patches made by the developers, I thought maybe some of the GEM users
> > could provide a patch or two that either does something very cool or
> > just demonstrates some of the possibilities of GEM.  This patch could
> > be a live performance video mixer or something made for an
> > installation that uses live video input, anything is really welcome.
> > If you have something you would like to share with the world, please
> > post a URL where the patch can be downloaded, and be sure to include
> > comments, abstractions, and a proper credit for yourself!
> >
> > also, i am also starting on a tutorial for GEM and if you want to help
> > out with that effort let me know.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > cgc
> >
> >
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