[PD] max msp vs pd

[carmen]

On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 04:04:20PM -0400, day 5 wrote:
> Oh man isn't that some truth!! I learned Max and bought a $60 nine 
> month student license and at the end I was *NOT* convinced it was worth 
> the $$$ those greedy guys are after.

hrmm. if i really wanted to use a graphical dataflow patcher environment right this minute/second/day, id proably consider buying max. ive certainly spent $495 of my time trying to make PD acceptable, and would proably need a lot more to get it there. i mean the basics like "click a icon, and it just works" for one... not to mention all the usability improvements, video and openGL stuff in the patcher, wrap-to-plugins etc..

but a lot of things that are a limitation in one are a limitation in the other, i mean why do you see so many cases of hacking in languages (javascript in max, everying-but-javascript in pd) instead of extending/flexibilitating the core so that you dont think "damnit, i need ruby for this..."

> 
> Pure Data 0wns MAXMSP !1!111!!1! Why 0wns ? Because MSP is involved 
> with Pd not his namesake!!
> 
> 
> -D5
> 
> On Oct 29, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Josh Steiner wrote:
> 
> >you might get a more balenced answere on a max mailing list, since 
> >most of us here chose not to buy max ;)
> >
> >Matthew Williams wrote:
> >
> >>Ok i'm curious .... why would someone spend 400 dollars on max when 
> >>you can get pd for free.  Is it because of the ability to make 
> >>plugin's using pluggo.  But can't you make plug-ins from pd as well.  
> >> I was going to buy max but i came across pd and thought,  "this is 
> >>great..max for free."  Am i wrong.  And yes i read about the 
> >>differences .. but they don't justify 400 dollars.
> >>
> >>wondering,  matt
> 
> 
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