[PD] max msp vs pd--- what about cyclops?

[julieta Maria]

Is there a program like cyclops in PD? SOmething that
will let you create zones on the video input to
determine light/color etc?

--- Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon at free.fr> wrote:

> carmen wrote:
> 
> >On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 04:04:20PM -0400, day 5
> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Oh man isn't that some truth!! I learned Max and
> bought a $60 nine 
> >>month student license and at the end I was *NOT*
> convinced it was worth 
> >>the $$$ those greedy guys are after.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >hrmm. if i really wanted to use a graphical
> dataflow patcher environment right this
> minute/second/day, id proably consider buying max.
> ive certainly spent $495 of my time trying to make
> PD acceptable, and would proably need a lot more to
> get it there. i mean the basics like "click a icon,
> and it just works" for one... not to mention all the
> usability improvements, video and openGL stuff in
> the patcher, wrap-to-plugins etc..
> >
> >  
> >
> mm, you mean "one-click users", i don't exactly see
> the interest...
> 
> >but a lot of things that are a limitation in one
> are a limitation in the other, i mean why do you see
> so many cases of hacking in languages (javascript in
> max, everying-but-javascript in pd) instead of
> extending/flexibilitating the core so that you dont
> think "damnit, i need ruby for this..."
> >
> >  
> >
> i definitely like that Miller's statement, "max is
> an old-program",
> think it's not even open to python ))
> 
> anyway, the problem is not even this,
> it is how once free ideas got into the market.
> but id on't want to waste time on competing with
> max,
> pd is different and everybody here tries to make it
> better,
> although better doesn't mean more simple, not all
> the time.
> 
> saludos,
> sevy
> 
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