[PD] max msp vs pd

[shreeswifty]

It only seems to be with pdp_ieee1394, which seems to HOG the 
whole cpu
and is mysteriously missing from newer versions. The OpenGL seems 
to be much faster in GEM though.


On Tue Nov 15 15:07:05 EST 2005, "B. Bogart" <ben at ekran.org> 
wrote:

> 
> 
> shreeswifty wrote:
>> I spent more time attempting to build and install jMAX then 
>> actually
>> using it. Christian Klippel ported FFTEASE to it nicely and 
>> there was an
>> awesome granular patch that someone built that worked on 2.5, 
>> but then
>> it plummetted.
>> 
>> I use pd recently for GEM, pdp, PIDIP an gridflow. It is nice.
>> I recently have tried Jitter and it works very well too. I have 
>> noticed
>> that the same type of patch is a little faster on Jitter than on 
>> GEM,
>> but i think that is because of a mem leak with pdp_ieee1394.
> 
> *cough* seems to me that would be more a comparison between the
> quicktime architecture (and loads of proprietary code) compared 
> to pdp,
> which I beleive on OSX ignores all that stuff and still uses the
> free(er?) dv decoder.
> 
> Funny I had heard the opposite, the same patch running on Gem 
> faster
> than on jitter... ;)
> 
> b.
> 
>> 
>> On Mon Nov 14 16:13:32 EST 2005, Arie van Schutterhoef
>> <arsche at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Jitter is a clone of GridFlow.
>>> 
>>> -Jitter is rumored to be 'inspired' by nato 0,55 of the 
>>> (in)famous
>>>  NN-aglomerate.
>>> 
>>>>> implementing an alternative gui for jmax in python was (i think)
>>>>> only an
>>>>> attempt to make jMax fit better into an opensource project 
>>>>> like agnula
>>>>> (they had license problems dueto java)
>>>> 
>>>> Right, and also the Java/Swing UI had too many bugs, several 
>>>> of which
>>>> were
>>>> in SUN's and IBM's implementations of Java/Swing.
>>> 
>>> -I have always been puzzled by this insistence on using java 
>>> for the GUI.
>>>  Seems to me also being the main reason why people disbanded 
>>> jMax.
>>>  and moved either to PD or to Max/MSP.
>>> 
>>>> Oh, and as far as I can tell, IRCAM has destroyed the 
>>>> mailing-list
>>>> archives of the old jMax, which conveniently removes most 
>>>> traces of the
>>>> existence of former 3rd-party developers.
>>> 
>>> -I don't know that's the reason, but its disappearance is 
>>> strange, to say
>>>  the least.
>>> 
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Patrick Pagano,M.F.A
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University Of Florida
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