[PD] about data structures

Thu Nov 17 08:36:16 CET 2005

Chuckk Hubbard ha scritto:

> I agree that would be great.
> Incidentally, have you considered using canvases to draw your envelope?
>  

nope. I ca't imagine how...
looking at the [cnv] help doesn't suggest me anything.

however, this is what I did: http://xaero.ath.cx/cms/en/adsr-new.html
it can be useful for graphing an ADSR, not for editing it.

>
>     I appreciate recently added datastructs new features.
>
>     however I think they still miss a big functionality:
>     often, to graphically represent a structure of data, are needed
>     various
>     type of calculations; it is pretty unuseful i.e. draw a polygon
>     with all
>     coordinates referred to 0,0 (object's center).
>
>     in order to paint a simple adsr struct, in addition to the
>     template, I
>     have to create a "data-controller", which prepares *ALL* points of the
>     adsr-graph (e.g.: x1,y1,x2,y2,....), *NOT* only the a,d,s,r.
>
>     i guess this feature has been requested many times, but, wouldn't be
>     better have the ability of making additions,subtractions,etc directly
>     inside the drawpolygon declaration?
>
>     in that case, plotting that adsr line it's just:
>     [drawpolygon 0 900 0 0 a 100 (a+d) s (a+d+100) s (a+d+100+r) 0]
>
>     what pd developers says about this?
>
>     --
>     ciao
>     Federico
>
>
>
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>     Message: 8
>     Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 20:34:51 +0000 (GMT)
>     From: Ed Kelly < morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk
>     <mailto:morph_2016 at yahoo.co.uk>>
>     Subject: Re: [PD] laptop linux
>     To: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann at gmx.net
>     <mailto:TimBlechmann at gmx.net>>, fbar at footils.org
>     <mailto:fbar at footils.org>,     PD List
>            <pd-list at iem.at <mailto:pd-list at iem.at>>
>     Message-ID: <20051116203451.777.qmail at web26315.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
>     <mailto:20051116203451.777.qmail at web26315.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>>
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>     Hi Tim, Hi Frank, Hi list,
>
>     Well, I know graphics acceleration is done outside of the CPU.
>     That's what I meant. I bought an Acer Aspire 1691 WLMi about 2 1/2
>     weeks ago, my first laptop (and considering my paycheck, my last
>     for a long, long while). I tried for 2 weeks to get Linux working
>     with the 1280x800 display to no avail, and to get pidip working.
>     Then I discovered a few things.
>
>     All you guys are probably using better distros than me. I'm giving
>     up on Fedora as of now, but I saw success stories on some of the
>     Linux Laptop sites, so I decided to give it a go. But, alas, my
>     graphics chips is not the Radeon x700 promised on the website, not
>     even the x600 I saw in some postings. It is an Intel i915
>     shared-memory chip with no accelleration. Intel's driver did not
>     work at all, so I was stuck with VESA at 1024x768. Pidip never
>     worked even though it compiled (with ffmpeg cvs from the 7th of
>     July 2004 by the way - I tried 6 dates...), but from searching the
>     list it looks like it would never work anyway - xvinfo reports no
>     display adaptors found.
>
>     And the performance - I get 75% CPU usage for something I have
>     seen take 48% on a 2.4GHz P4. I have read something on the net
>     about using ICC (Intel's version of gcc) rather than the standard
>     one. Is this what you do?
>
>     I may be doing something stupid, or just ignorant, but you caught
>     me just as I am about to sell this thing on ebay (the shop have
>     refused to take it back) and buy another laptop. The pidip is the
>     main reason, because even if I can get the proc up to speed, I
>     want to do live video.
>
>     Any Ideas? PS the list archive search engine reports no results
>     for the search string 'pd' - maybe it's not working - I'll email
>     Johannes.
>
>     On the edge,
>     Ed
>
>
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>     Message: 9
>     Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:42:34 +0100
>     From: Yves Degoyon <ydegoyon at free.fr <mailto:ydegoyon at free.fr>>
>     Subject: Re: [PD] max msp vs pd
>     To: Frank Barknecht <fbar at footils.org <mailto:fbar at footils.org>>
>     Cc: pd-list at iem.at <mailto:pd-list at iem.at>
>     Message-ID: <437B99BA.2020703 at free.fr
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>     Frank Barknecht wrote:
>
>     >Hallo,
>     >Pat Pagano hat gesagt: // Pat Pagano wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >>>please, switch to linux..
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>Sure, which flavor do you suggest sevy?
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >Yves probably will suggest Gentoo or Linux from Scratch, but for
>     >starters Ubuntu is quite comfortable, though AGNULA/Demudi has
>     better
>     >audio support (like the sound server set to off by default etc.)
>     >
>     >Ciao
>     >
>     >
>     i actually use a Fedora Core 3 ( a bit modified ),
>     cause i'm lazy...
>
>     but i've seen a very good distribution lately
>     that includes pd, it'argentinian and focused on music softwares :
>
>     MUSIX : http://www.musix.org.ar/
>
>     it even works, ardour, jack and all,
>     so, respekt !!
>
>     sevy
>
>
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